# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1141 "2025-09-17T15:46:41Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Well, it is looking as early reports are backed by the texts, still, as others and the report pointed out: The partner was not supporting what the killer did. I have to add that besides the gay or trans partner not approving of what the killer did, it does not take away the reality that Kash Patel remains a nincompoop. > **[It Sure Looks Like Kash Patel Lied Under Oath About Jeffrey Epstein](https://newrepublic.com/post/200531/kash-patel-jeffrey-epstein-trafficking-network)** > > Patel made his most unbelievable claim yet about Epstein and his supposed client list. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1142 "2025-09-17T16:37:35Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Much of that is driven by their voters, too. > > They can and often do detect the obvious phonies. Witness DeSantis’ poor attempt at making a presidential run. Or Ted Cruz. Or a number of others. They tried to playact the Trump playbook and failed abjectly. It’s hard to fake that weird combination of sincerity, ignorance, arrogance, and bigotry. > > I mean, they still win their elections at the local and state levels but increasingly many of the old guard lost and are losing primaries to the genuinely sincere, ignorant bigots rather than the opportunists pretending at it. I think the 2024 Republican primaries, such as they were, demonstrated just how difficult it is to replicate Trump’s secret sauce. DeSantis tried his damnedest to portray himself as even Trumpier than Trump, but with the brains and temperament to be able to carry out the Trumpist vision in a more effective and disciplined manner. He got absolutely nowhere. Interestingly, the only Republican, other than Trump, to win even a single primary that year was Nikki Haley, who made herself out to be the least Trumpy candidate (even if she did ultimately bend the knee to the Orange Emperor). ---
**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1143 "2025-09-17T20:09:42Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Also why I have not commented at all on social media about recent events under my legal name. On that note, I am pretty active with fighting ignorance in the comments on various Facebook local news pages and NYT, CNN, etc (under my legit page with my legal name, albeit with my profile completely locked down from anyone who I’m not “Friends” with). When I “Googled” myself the other day (I have a pretty uncommon last name) I was kind of taken aback to see all the information that was compiled on me through “truepeoplesearch”. Current address and older ones going back 20 years, old phone numbers, my parents’ and sister’s names and ages and addresses, etc. My current employer was listed as well. I submitted a pretty easy record removal request through them, and within 36 hours everything was gone and now I get a “This record is no longer available” message. Food for thought for any of y’all that might want to look into it. I was pretty discouraged thinking “there is no way in hell this request is going to go anywhere, but I’ll give it a shot anyway”. I was shocked when I got the follow up emails from them within a day to let me know it was being processed. [https://www.truepeoplesearch.com/](https://www.truepeoplesearch.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1144 "2025-09-17T20:18:40Z")
Perhaps they just put you on the double secret probation list? And anyone else who asks to be removed. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1145 "2025-09-17T20:27:16Z")
I have managed to purge myself from all of those places. They are typically very good about removal. It’s honestly easier for them to do that than to deal with any bullshit from not removing it. They still have tens of millions of entries or more. Be sure to recheck every few months. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1146 "2025-09-17T21:19:21Z")
> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#): > > When I “Googled” myself the other day (I have a pretty uncommon last name) I was kind of taken aback to see all the information that was compiled on me through “truepeoplesearch”. Current address and older ones going back 20 years, old phone numbers, my parents’ and sister’s names and ages and addresses, etc. My current employer was listed as well. I googled myself on that service and holy shit there was a TON of inaccuracies in the information, including alleged addresses for me thousands of miles away from where I have ever lived and they don’t have my current name correct. WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1147 "2025-09-17T21:19:29Z")
Creepy. The information on me is about 75% accurate, but at least they are wrong about my address and phone number (thanks, credit reporting that can’t handle ex-pats!). ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1148 "2025-09-17T21:24:38Z")
OK, glad I wasn’t the only one who looked myself up. It has my correct address, which is unsurprising since we’ve lived here for 40 years. But it has my old landline number, which was disconnected about 8 years ago, and my cell phone number is my daughter’s. Of course, I originally was the account owner, but that was also changed several years ago. I believe I will remove myself from that database. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1149 "2025-09-17T21:29:16Z")
The site says I’m blocked. I assume they just don’t want to deal with EU people who actually have _legal_ rights regarding data clarity versus their supposed willingness to help out of the goodness of their hearts. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1150 "2025-09-17T21:41:17Z")
On the other hand, they only have 1 of my four e-mail addresses, don’t have my date of birth, and are otherwise lacking some other details. It almost makes me want to pay the service for the more in-depth report just to see if there is anything that needs to be cleared up there but I have no idea if I could trust one of those places. And, of course, contacting them at all means confirming that they have your correct e-mail address (or one of them). ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1151 "2025-09-17T21:56:54Z")
New question. Those memes, with the guy sitting at a table, with a stupid sign that says “Somethingsomething prove me wrong!” Was that Kirk? If so, I never figured it out. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1152 "2025-09-17T22:01:17Z")
More often than not, that’s Steven Crowder at the “Change my mind” table. Winding up college kids generates clicks, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1153 "2025-09-17T22:02:17Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Those memes, with the guy sitting at a table, with a stupid sign that says “Somethingsomething prove me wrong!” > > Was that Kirk? If so, I never figured it out. Nope; it’s a podcaster named Steven Crowder. Also, the end of the meme is usually “Change My Mind.” > **[Steven Crowder's "Change My Mind" Campus Sign | Know Your Meme](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/steven-crowders-change-my-mind-campus-sign)** > > Steven Crowder’s “Change My Mind” Campus Sign is a photograph of conservative podcaster Steven Crowder seated behind a sign that reads “Male Privilege is a ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1154 "2025-09-17T22:08:23Z")
Me, I prefer Seth Phillips [![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS7eEsnmX_oIaObtJbFCsvSIUZKRpW-3ZCnVzV2oP5mzQ&s=10) ](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS7eEsnmX_oIaObtJbFCsvSIUZKRpW-3ZCnVzV2oP5mzQ&s=10) I’m not the only one [![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRpaPF_vvG5TJ-mFAgBm2fBmHAQ6KyqK0XlgaXwSRgqLg&s=10) ](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRpaPF_vvG5TJ-mFAgBm2fBmHAQ6KyqK0XlgaXwSRgqLg&s=10) ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1155 "2025-09-17T22:33:39Z")
Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1156 "2025-09-17T22:52:30Z")
And now Kimmel has been canceled for his Kirk comments. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1157 "2025-09-17T22:57:13Z")
Unbelievable. Ironically, that’s not what Kirk would have wanted > **[ABC Pulls ‘Jimmy Kimmel Live!’ Indefinitely After Host’s Charlie Kirk Comments](https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/nexstar-jimmy-kimmel-abc-charlie-kirk-1236522584/)** > > Nexstar, one of the biggest owners o US f TV stations in, said will pre-empt Jimmy Kimmel's late night show due to the host's Charlie Kirk remarks ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1158 "2025-09-17T22:58:58Z")
What did he say? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1159 "2025-09-17T23:05:58Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > What did he say?. > [@](#): > > We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA [Make America Great Again] gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it And about Trump: > [@](#): > > This is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone he called a friend. This is how a four-year-old mourns a goldfish I’ve certainly heard far more offensive things from comedians on television. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1160 "2025-09-17T23:17:28Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Unbelievable. Ironically, that’s not what Kirk would have wanted Wrong. Entirely believable. And I’m not convinced Kirk was opposed to critics losing, whether that was the argument, their jobs, etc. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=57) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=59)