# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 63
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1241 "2025-09-20T00:03:56Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I’ll call it the 30 - ought - six Wouldn’t the convention dictate 30-OH- 6? ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1242 "2025-09-20T04:29:47Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Also, that stadium seats closer to 70,000 for football. Trump always lies that his crowds are that big or bigger. I wonder how he’s going to feel if actually that many people show up for someone who isn’t him? That would have to annoy him. And I guess there’s no doubt that his speech will be all about how wonderful Donald J. Trump is - the man who made Charlie Kirk a star. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1243 "2025-09-20T04:47:10Z")
Well yeah, the whole Kimmel thing has nothing actually to do with Kirk. Trump’s just pissed about the jokes, and this provided the ‘believable’ context ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1244 "2025-09-20T08:09:28Z")
Oklahoma is introducing a bill to require every public university to set aside land for a park dedicated to Charlie Kirk and _build a motherfucking statue._ > **[New bill proposes all Oklahoma state universities erect statue of Charlie Kirk](https://www.themirror.com/news/politics/new-bill-proposes-every-public-1400690)** > > Kirk, a political activist and supporter of Trump, was tragically shot dead on Wednesday whilst addressing students at a public event at Utah Valley University I think they’ve taken the lead in the Conservative Freak-Out about Charlie Kirk category. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1245 "2025-09-20T08:18:13Z")
Will we have his body lying on display for the next hundred years? Even the Russians may be [giving up on Lenin](https://youtu.be/My7MhdGjLzo). Or, to bring it back to Nazis, Rick Blaine’s observation: “Yesterday they were just a couple of couriers. Today they’re the honored dead.” ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1246 "2025-09-20T08:24:14Z")
Add this to the list of shit historians are going to be confused about in 100 years. “Wait, did I miss the chapter on Charlie Kirk being a great statesman or something? There was some podcast dude with a modest audience and they spent a year building statues of him everywhere?” ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1247 "2025-09-20T08:33:08Z")
They’ll have a ready-made label for the period: Heinlein’s [_The Crazy Years_](https://david-brin.medium.com/heinleins-future-history-coming-true-before-our-eyes-10356a95556a). ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1248 "2025-09-20T08:43:43Z")
So his wife is taking over as head of turning point. I thought women weren’t allowed to do that sort of thing? Or weren’t capable. So how will the people who believed in Kirk reconcile this odd behavior? That’s not a real question. I’m sure they’ll figure it out. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1249 "2025-09-20T09:21:17Z")
Should we call groups of people whitewashing his statements and history a circle Kirk? (I wish I’d thought of this.) ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1250 "2025-09-20T09:45:09Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > So his wife is taking over as head of turning point. I thought women weren’t allowed to do that sort of thing? Or weren’t capable. Widows are allowed to “do that sort of thing” if it is in furtherance of their ~~master’s~~ late husband’s goals and visions. Just so long as they don’t get uppity and pretend they have ideas of their own. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1251 "2025-09-20T10:25:46Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > build a motherfucking statue. I have an artistic concept for this. I mean, it doesn’t really have to be a realistic portrayal of the man, perhaps better a portrait of his beliefs? My landlady’s dog produces several example models every day. I’d begin the project by reducing the fibre in his diet, so the output would become progressively soft. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1252 "2025-09-20T11:36:02Z")
Man, those are difficult to pick up. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1253 "2025-09-20T11:52:15Z")
We cancelled Hulu due to ABC’s compliance, and I was pleased that it included a text field to tell them why I was cancelling. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1254 "2025-09-20T16:32:01Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > I wonder how he’s going to feel if actually that many people show up for someone who isn’t him? Easy. He’ll be telling himself they all came to listen to his listing of grievances (which we all know is what his speech will be - thirty seconds about the dead guy and 90 minutes about himself). ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1255 "2025-09-20T16:43:50Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Who would’ve thought letting a few mega corporations own all media in the US could be problematic [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/GvtNyOzGogc/maxresdefault.jpg "Sinclair Broadcast Group: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtNyOzGogc) > [@Broomstick](#): > > Widows are allowed to “do that sort of thing” if it is in furtherance of their ~~master’s~~ late husband’s goals and visions. Just so long as they don’t get uppity and pretend they have ideas of their own. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Fl7xOGDHViA/maxresdefault.jpg "Mrs Wheeler slaps Serena Joy - Handmaid's Tale") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl7xOGDHViA) Stranger ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1256 "2025-09-20T23:18:49Z")
A bit of remembrance for Charlie. He was a disingenuous liar, a threat to everyone who was different; but still shouldn’t have been shot. Charlie and the Black Man: [![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/fd41b991-6bd4-4cd0-b53d-ec1456fa1712) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/fd41b991-6bd4-4cd0-b53d-ec1456fa1712) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1257 "2025-09-21T01:10:23Z")
[Armed man arrested outside the hate-monger’s convention, er memorial service.](https://www.aol.com/articles/armed-man-arrested-outside-charlie-183818800.html) > [@](#): > > An armed man was arrested Friday afternoon outside of a stadium in Arizona, where a [memorial service](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/charlie-kirk-memorial-service-how-to-watch/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17) for conservative activist Charlie Kirk — who was [shot and killed](https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-turning-point-usa/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17) as he spoke at an event at Utah Valley University on Sept. 10. — is scheduled to take place, law enforcement officials said. > > The U.S. Secret Service told CBS News in a statement that a man was “observed exhibiting suspicious behavior” at the NFL-sized State Farm Stadium in Glendale. Secret Service agents approached the man, who told agents that he was a member of law enforcement and was armed. > > The Arizona Department of Public Safety said the man, identified as Joshua Runkles, was not a member of law enforcement. Runkles, 42, was booked into the Maricopa County Jail for impersonating a law enforcement officer and carrying a weapon into a prohibited place, officials said. Runkles has since been released on bond, according to the Arizona Department of Public Safety. > > Two law enforcement sources told CBS News that Runkles was working as a private security officer for an influencer who is attending Sunday’s memorial service. Runkles first claimed to be working with the Secret Service on a detail when he was confronted by law enforcement. He presented credentials identifying himself as a deputy sheriff from out of town, sources said. > > “The U.S. Secret Service and local law enforcement are investigating the circumstances as to why he was at the location,” the USSS statement said. [And just in case you forgot magaflateartherss are in a cult, check out this “challenge”.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/starbucks-responds-viral-charlie-kirk-133536768.html) > [@](#): > > [Starbucks](https://people.com/starbucks-new-pecan-cortado-11796171) has issued a statement regarding names on cups as [Charlie Kirk](https://people.com/charlie-kirk-what-to-know-11807589) supporters continue to order drinks with the late right-wing political commentator’s name written on them. > > A video shared on [TikTok](https://www.tiktok.com/@valerielewis292/video/7550468872852278559) on Sept. 16, which has since amassed almost a million views, showed a customer walking into a Starbucks in Yucaipa, California, and attempting to order a Mint Majesty tea with two honeys — which Kirk had [previously stated was his go-to order](https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1101134155284209). > > The TikTok user who posted the clip tried to get the barista to write Kirk’s name on the cup, but she declined, stating they “can’t do political names,” but could “write Charlie.” > > “Why can’t you write the whole name?” the customer then asked. > > “Because it’s political,” the barista replied. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1258 "2025-09-21T01:52:45Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Charlie and the Black Man: Omg, he was that guy? I’d forgotten all about that. ---
**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1259 "2025-09-21T02:34:30Z")
> My father always wanted to be the corpse at every funeral, the bride at every wedding and the baby at every christening. > > **[Alice Roosevelt Longworth](https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/alice-roosevelt-longworth-quotes)** Will el donald want to be the center of attention, as usual? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1260 "2025-09-21T02:41:58Z")
When has he ever _stopped_ wanting that? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=62) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=64)