# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 66
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1301 "2025-09-22T13:32:34Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > that the grieving widow of the assassinated political activist didn’t live up to your standards of moral purity and honest respectful political discourse. Did she live up to yours? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1302 "2025-09-22T13:48:10Z")
His widow is the one person in the world that I’m willing to forgive for whatever she’s said since he died. Grieving people deserve space to be shitty, to say irrational things, and to break social conventions. The politicians who are using this to stir up revolution are pure evil. Maybe she is, too, but I’m giving her a break for another week. Maybe she’s just a grieving widow. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1303 "2025-09-22T13:50:17Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Did she live up to yours? Yes she did much better than I ever could or would. Personally I am not into this kind of forgiveness healing but I also do not pretend to know what it is like to be in her shoes. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1304 "2025-09-22T15:26:37Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > Bonus hypocrisy points: this is the same political party that told [Cindy Sheehan](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Sheehan) to shut up about the loss of her son. I had to look up who this woman was. Your point was incredibly stupid. So that is a worrisome sign too for your mental faculties. But since you are so full of empathy for the troubled young man who committed this oopsie all in the name of love against a bigoted literal nazi who went around speaking to people and once in a while made some mildly controversial statements, particularly out of context, you are obviously a good and virtuous person who should not feel any shame. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1305 "2025-09-22T15:31:31Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > I had to look up who this woman was. You have to look up your mother’s birth canal to see where your brains got left behind ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1306 "2025-09-22T15:35:44Z")
Awww you do not want to be my role model anymore? I’m crushed. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1307 "2025-09-22T16:25:27Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > and once in a while made some mildly controversial statements Did Charlie have to literally say ‘_I hate niggers_’ and ‘_Females are chattel breeding animals not humans_’ for you to get what he was saying? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1308 "2025-09-22T16:28:19Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > Blames entire groups of sexual minorities and those of different political convictions for directly causing his murder. I really want her to spend some time with Charlie’s bestie and come out with Candace Owen’s conspiracy theory that Israel and the Jews murdered Charlie just to see what the conservative/Republican response is. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1309 "2025-09-22T16:29:37Z")
**I saw Goody Proctor being insufficiently mournful of Charlie Kirk.** ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1310 "2025-09-22T16:34:41Z")
> [@Ancient\_Nerd](#): > > Renting that place must have cost a pretty penny. Who paid for it? The NYT said in one of its articles that Turning Point USA claimed it would pay most of the expenses. That said, Ms. Kirk is [now $9 million richer than she was before the shooting](https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/09/18/erika-kirk-fundraiser/), as a result of fundraisers posted on crowdfunding sites, so who knows where that money is going. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1311 "2025-09-22T16:41:35Z")
> [@Ancient\_Nerd](#): > > Fireworks at a funeral? I mean, yes, if I could afford them, my funeral would be like the 1860 Overture, except with more cannons. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1312 "2025-09-22T16:41:46Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Did Charlie have to literally say ‘_I hate niggers_’ and ‘_Females are chattel breeding animals not humans_’ for you to get what he was saying? It’s abhorrent that you would even ask a question like that and I’m not going to engage it. But the guy in your political aisle just murdered the guy with whom I share with many if not most of my political opinions. I think I got Charlie Kirk just fine. Meanwhile everyone here can hardly contain their glee: “I could never bring myself to celebrate anyone’s death, but if there ever was someone who should be brutally murdered with a bullet in the neck is the peaceful college debate guy, teehee!” ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1313 "2025-09-22T16:46:02Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > It’s abhorrent that you would even ask a question like that and I’m not going to engage it. Yes it is, it’s easier than admitting that Kirk was a bigot. > [@Pedro](#): > > But the guy in your political aisle And the evidence for this is what? > [@Pedro](#): > > Meanwhile everyone here can hardly contain their glee: So, you’re too stupid to understand that “everyone here” includes you? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1314 "2025-09-22T16:53:27Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > But the guy in your political aisle just murdered the guy with whom I share with many if not most of my political opinions. I think I got Charlie Kirk just fine. And this statement pretty much tells us all we need to know about what you believe. I think we’ve got _you_ just fine. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1315 "2025-09-22T17:00:18Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > the guy with whom I share with many if not most of my political opinions. Funny that, unlike Kirk, you don’t make even the slightest effort to defend those opinions given your presence in the threads criticizing them. Do you agree with Kirk (et. al.) about what should happen to folks named ‘Pedro’? Ya know that they should be fed to alligators if they aren’t deported to outsourced concentration camps? ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1316 "2025-09-22T17:02:54Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And this statement pretty much tells us all we need to know about what you believe. I think we’ve got _you_ just fine. This does not burn nearly as much as you think it does. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1317 "2025-09-22T17:07:18Z")
There was hardly any doubt that you would take some sort of dimwitted pride in associating yourself with an open bigot. It’s not as if the right even understands the concepts of bigotry, hypocrisy or shame any more. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1318 "2025-09-22T17:09:10Z")
Don’t equate my “political aisle” with some twisted ammosexual who was force-fed backward ass gun culture idolatry since before he was out of diapers. In fact, I still don’t give a shit about anybody’s political aisle until we address the real fucking problem … after how many goddamned years and how many goddamned deaths … so why do I feel like both broken record and walking, talking moot point … it’s the motherfucking guns and psycotic gun culture that needs to be fixed. Jesus Jumping Christ. And don’t come at me with he was shot with a completely legal deer rifle. There were no fucking deer on campus. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1319 "2025-09-22T17:12:15Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > There was hardly any doubt that you would take some sort of dimwitted pride in associating yourself with an open bigot. It’s not as if the right even understands the concepts of bigotry, hypocrisy or shame any more. Did you just cast the SPELL OF BIGOTRY at me you devil? You dastardly old goat. You may have bested me this time but you watch, I will regroup and come back stronger than ever and then you’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1320 "2025-09-22T17:15:14Z")
Thanks for pointing out that the right doesn’t take anything seriously-it is all a game to you, a game you need to win, right or wrong. I’m sorry. Is the concept of “right and wrong” just a bit too much for you to handle? I notice that you think coming back “stronger” is the only path that works for you. It worked for Hitler, too…for awhile. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=65) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=67)