# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 70
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1381 "2025-09-23T00:03:51Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > You previously said you didn’t know much about Charlie Kirk. Now you’re saying the “totality of his work” or at least the “one you’re familiar with” might change my mind. Willing to look at this clip or article. > > If you could please post what you’re specifically referring to about his work, I’ll take a look. I watched a lot of Charlie Kirk videos since this horrible tragedy unfolded. That’s the totality I was talking about. What else do you want to know? It’s not really my job to convince you of anything but I’m willing to engage in good faith debate. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1382 "2025-09-23T00:05:29Z")
Since you have contributed nothing of worth so far, contributing more later seems rather unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1383 "2025-09-23T00:06:13Z")
Liar. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1384 "2025-09-23T00:11:00Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > but I’m willing to engage in good faith debate. Your posts above to the contrary not withstanding. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1385 "2025-09-23T00:21:49Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Please comment on ths quote about Joy Reid, > Michelle Obama, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Ketanji Brown Jackson: > > > “You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.” And if you want more context, Yahoo does a good job [here](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-charlie-kirk-quote-082017036.html). ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1386 "2025-09-23T00:26:19Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > It’s not really my job to convince you of anything but I’m willing to engage in good faith debate. This sentence does not track logically. A common definition of a debate is that you’re trying to convince someone else of something. Please post ANY quote from Kirk you agree with, from the “totality” of videos that you have recently watched. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1387 "2025-09-23T00:35:29Z")
(Never mind… no point in responding) ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1388 "2025-09-23T00:39:16Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Please post ANY quote from Kirk you agree with, from the “totality” of videos that you have recently watched. My thoughts on DEI align pretty well with what Charlie Kirk said. Do I think he was being kind to the four black women he mentioned by name? No I do not. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1389 "2025-09-23T00:42:11Z")
Define DEI. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1390 "2025-09-23T00:43:22Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > My thoughts on DEI align pretty well with what Charlie Kirk said. That no Black person has a position of authority by merit? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1391 "2025-09-23T00:58:06Z")
So people just can’t resist engaging him. Keep feeding the troll. This thread is ruined. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1392 "2025-09-23T00:58:43Z")
Trolling is allowed in the pit. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1393 "2025-09-23T01:00:32Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Trolling is allowed in the pit Who said it wasn’t? I said it’s ruined the thread. Everybody trying to convince a troll the error of his ways is a waste of what had been a useful thread. It’s like grandpa screaming at the clouds. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1394 "2025-09-23T01:05:26Z")
Yeah, i had been following this thread. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1395 "2025-09-23T01:09:46Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Someone should post something not horrible he ever said if it exists. I’ve noticed in all the drama that his supporters never quote the guy. There were no inspirational quotes from the man they claim is the next MLK hanging on banners at the rally or in the speeches lauding him that I’ve heard. All they can do is say he was civil, since when you are spouting hate, I guess being polite is all that matters. What’s going to be on the base of his statues? “Prove me wrong.”? ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1396 "2025-09-23T01:16:59Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > This sentence does not track logically. A common definition of a debate is that you’re trying to convince someone else of something. Well, I’m usually not one to turn down a debate but don’t let that fool you into thinking I’m above just making fun of some brainrotted idiots. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1397 "2025-09-23T01:19:59Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > What’s going to be on the base of his statues? “Not a horrible racist” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1398 "2025-09-23T01:29:48Z")
I have been unfailingly polite, and you have been nothing but **rude**. Very well. We shall resume in an hour. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1399 "2025-09-23T01:32:21Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > My thoughts on DEI align pretty well with what Charlie Kirk said. What specifically did Charlie Kirk say about DEI? I’m curious to see if you have any sources to back up your opinion. You made a statement in public for all to hear. Are you unable to defend the statements you make? Or simply unwilling to have a reasoned discussion? [![](https://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/N/Nathannate/20200717/20200717012200.jpg) ](https://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/N/Nathannate/20200717/20200717012200.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1400 "2025-09-23T01:40:49Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > What specifically did Charlie Kirk say about DEI? I’m curious to see if you have any sources to back up your opinion. > > You made a statement in public for all to hear. Are you unable to defend the statements you make? Or simply unwilling to have a reasoned discussion? If I had wanted to start a debate with my personal thoughts on DEI I would have. I didn’t so I don’t. This place has gotten incredibly boring and asinine lately and I hardly ever post really so that explains that. And spare me the silly goading about not being able to defend my public statements. What I am willing to do is discuss Charlie Kirk quotes in a serious and honest manner but first I need to get some sleep. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=69) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=71)