# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 77
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1521 "2025-09-24T05:26:49Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Yep, this is a similar mentality as the guy that released the whole recording of his group [killing a black guy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ahmaud_Arbery) because he sincerely thought that the whole context would exonerate them… racism does gives blinders to the ones falling for it. This is pure libtard peak performance. Congratulations. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1522 "2025-09-24T05:32:32Z")
Damn, I don’t see how GIGO is going to recover from that well thought out response to his post! ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1523 "2025-09-24T05:34:35Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > This is pure libtard peak performance. Congratulations. Nope, Snopes noted that yep, that quote from Kirk was reprehensible and correctly attributed, and made worse by the context, because now it adds the fact that Kirk was a false witness about what DEI was, DEI includes merit, so yeah, besides a racist, he was a liar while pretending to be a Christian. So, Thanks for the context, you numnuts 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1524 "2025-09-24T05:35:08Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Ya know, LARPing as a Nazi isn’t helping the argument that you’re not a troll, just saying. Here’s some of that attention you are craving. You are starting to sound desperate and it is all just a little bit too sad. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1525 "2025-09-24T05:36:46Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > Here’s some of that attention you are craving. You are starting to sound desperate and it is all just a little bit too sad. It is sadder to defend a racist liar, that also was an antivaxxer. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1526 "2025-09-24T05:47:20Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > Here’s some of that attention you are craving. You are starting to sound desperate and it is all just a little bit too sad. You see a lot, ~~Doctor Lecter~~ Pedro. But are you strong enough to point that high-powered perception at yourself? What about it? Why don’t you - why don’t you look at yourself and write down what you see? Or maybe you’re afraid to. Maybe you’re afraid of the troll in the mirror. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1527 "2025-09-24T05:56:46Z")
He does write down what he sees. And then he accuses others of it. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1528 "2025-09-24T06:19:23Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Damn, I don’t see how GIGO is going to recover from that well thought out response to his post! 😉 I know you jest, but really, only by being aware of his blinders is that one can see the condition **Pedro** is in. The whitewash going on out there coming from the ones giving marching orders from the right, does include that “mention the missing context!” I did see already a couple of right wing posters reaching for that talking point before and failling miserably too, regarding CK. Pedro is not even aware about how the influencers from the right don’t care about how dumb their minions end up looking. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1529 "2025-09-24T06:23:01Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > You see a lot, ~~Doctor Lecter~~ Pedro. But are you strong enough to point that high-powered perception at yourself? What about it? Why don’t you - why don’t you look at yourself and write down what you see? Or maybe you’re afraid to. > Maybe you’re afraid of the troll in the mirror. How’s trying to get me banned working out for you? Keep trying dimwit. I’m sorry you are so bad at this but you should never give up on your dreams and ambitions. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1530 "2025-09-24T06:26:31Z")
I’m not trying to get you banned! (That would be you doing that. I am more than happy to continue to throw out bits of ‘Ban Food’ that you gobble up and respond to like the trained troll you are.) I’m one of the posters that laments banned trolls ‘Please mods can we keep it? I promise I’ll feed it every day!’ ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1531 "2025-09-24T06:36:19Z")
Can you fuckers who are engaging Pedro just pop him on ignore please? This thread has gone down the shitter since he arrived, and you fuckers aren’t helping matters by responding to him. Thank you for your attention. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1532 "2025-09-24T06:43:30Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > This thread has gone down the shitter since he arrived Amazingly, he has been a member since 2000. That is long line trolling ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1533 "2025-09-24T06:44:05Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > How’s trying to get me banned working out for you? Keep trying dimwit. I’m sorry you are so bad at this but you should never give up on your dreams and ambitions. Oh, none of us will get you banned. But you might. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1534 "2025-09-24T06:51:31Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Pedro is not even aware about how the influencers from the right don’t care about how dumb their minions end up looking. Right. I’m such a minion being “whitewashed” and taking “marching orders”. 🙄 Fortunately you are here to show me the way with your dumbass murder analogies. It’s completely disingenuous and frankly disgusting to pretend context doesn’t matter to understand what Kirk was trying to say about having a black pilot, even if you disagree with him or the way he expressed it. One idea is criticizing racial quotas and DEI. The other is criticizing black people as inherently inferior and under qualified to fly an airplane. But of course you already know all this. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1535 "2025-09-24T07:03:35Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Can you fuckers who are engaging Pedro just pop him on ignore please? This thread has gone down the shitter since he arrived, and you fuckers aren’t helping matters by responding to him. I hear you were horrified and disgusted down under watching the Kirk memorial event. I’ll bet and who wouldn’t be. Tell me more, I would like to take some notes to learn how to empathize better with people. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1536 "2025-09-24T07:08:06Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > Right. I’m such a minion being “whitewashed” and taking “marching orders”. 🙄 Just here: “Whitewash” referred to clean up (ineptly) what Kirk was saying and doing. When you said the you are being whitewashed you are saying that you are cleaning up yourself. (Ineptly too.) BTW context does matter and many already did notice how the context made it worse, but you continue trying to make the anti vaxx and climate change denier sound reasonable, what is clear is that you are only certifying yourself as unwhashable. > **[Debunking Charlie Kirk’s Climate Denial](https://thinc.blog/2025/09/19/debunking-charlie-kirks-climate-denial/)** > > This video is actually 4 years old, but it’s a useful exercise in that Kirk basically regurgitated 2009 vintage climate denial tropes, and this video ably demolishes them. Useful in case you … ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1537 "2025-09-24T07:20:02Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > When you said the you are being whitewashed you are saying that you are cleaning up yourself. (Ineptly too.) Could be that somewhere in Pedro’s tiny ‘brain’ there’s the fear that simping for the side that wants to commit a Hispanic genocide in the US isn’t going to save him should the ICE man cometh. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1538 "2025-09-24T07:20:10Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > BTW context does matter and many already did notice how the context made it worse, but you continue trying to make the anti vaxx and climate change denier sound reasonable, what is clear is that you are only certifying yourself as unwhashable. I just felt a pain pang thinking people like you breed. Well done sir. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1539 "2025-09-24T07:23:53Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > I just felt a pain pang thinking people like you breed. Well done sir. Translation: you did not check video to confirm how Kirk was also a false witness against science. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1540 "2025-09-24T07:27:03Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Translation: you did not check video to confirm how Kirk was also a false witness against science. The guy was assassinated for speaking. Why the fuck would I care to discuss his views on climate change right now? Get a fucking grip. “False witness”. Is that dumbass-speak for people who assume I am religious? Idiot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=76) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=78)