# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 79
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1561 "2025-09-24T09:55:32Z")
I understand the shock at someone who has been a member here for a long time and has a backbone, thinks by himself and isn’t afraid to speak his mind to you numbskulls but you’ll just have to get over it. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1562 "2025-09-24T09:56:44Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > After your side got the peaceful political activist brutally murdered with your unhinged and violent rhetoric and constant use of intimidation tactics you also wanted these people to go slink away quietly into obscurity and not bother you with all that pesky memorializing for the well respected member of their political movement. He was a murderous rabble rouser killed by someone from his own side; live by the sword, die by the sword. Associate yourself with monsters and sooner or later they are likely to attack or kill you. And as said, everything else you say is just more projection; you are describing your own side, not the self-destructively passive (and tiny) left. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1563 "2025-09-24T09:59:50Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Here’s another question you probably won’t answer: what currency are you paid at your job? Dollars? Euros? Rubles? Renminbi? Oh, I’m pretty sure he’s attempting to suck his own dick in public entirely for free. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1564 "2025-09-24T10:02:01Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > Yes I do think it is absurd. No christian conservative I know would ever think this is an acceptable phrase to say in all seriousness, in the context of family values or any other, and I have no reason to believe Charlie Kirk is any different. Bullshit. Or you don’t know any Christian conservatives. > [@Pedro](#): > > You criticized me for not replying and asked me the questions and when I do you the courtesy to explain my point of view you disregard it for some reason, try to put in the last word and run away with an insult. Yes, this is the Pit. The level of exchange you seem to be seeking is actually found in the Great Debates section. But you won’t go there because you don’t actually want a debate. > [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Are we sure Charlie Kirk is really dead, because the Pedro asshole is Charlie Kirking all of you. Yeah, he’s dead - millions watched Kirk die on video. Assholes like Pedro are like mushrooms springing up on a grave: pale, repulsive things thriving on bile and rot. > [@Pedro](#): > > Expect my opus to come out soon refuting this lovely piece. You make me laugh. You haven’t refuted anything. You’re too lazy to compose a rebuttal, which is why you keep repeating the same pathetic song over and over. I could get ChatGPT to produce better rebuttals than you do. > [@Pedro](#): > > It is another brainrotted moron Please. Even your insults are uncreative. Creatively expressed insults are a long-standing tradition here in the Pit and you just aren’t rising to the occasion. JFK, Jr. had a fucking literal _worm_ eat part of his brain but still manages to be more witty than you. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1565 "2025-09-24T10:03:55Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > I understand the shock at someone who has been a member here for a long time and has a backbone, thinks by himself and isn’t afraid to speak his mind to you numbskulls but you’ll just have to get over it. Really? Who’s that? Can you introduce us to him? Oh wait, you mean you. Mr “I Think For Myself” yet again trots out > [@Gyrate](#): > > the go-to “you’re all just attacking me because I’m a conservative challenging the hivemind narrative” lie, long beloved of all our right-wing trolls here. Because that’s all you’ve got. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1566 "2025-09-24T10:06:05Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > JFK, Jr. had a fucking literal _worm_ eat part of his brain but still manages to be more witty than you. RFK Jr. Although JFK Jr’s brain may have been eaten by some sealife. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1567 "2025-09-24T10:26:11Z")
And JFK’s brain was not available to be eaten by anything. Too soon? ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1568 "2025-09-24T10:30:53Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Oh, I’m pretty sure he’s attempting to suck his own dick in public entirely for free. Good thing for me that all you can do is be crass. Here, have a cookie too. It is flavored with chocolate, structural racism and the tears of children whose dreams were crushed by patriarchy. Just a hint of xenophobia, you’ll barely notice it. It’s yummy, try it. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1569 "2025-09-24T11:15:58Z")
Excellent job knocking down that Liberal Strawman you’ve built. You’re certainly showing us what a freethinker you are. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1570 "2025-09-24T11:33:41Z")
Kash Patel has complicated the case against Tyler Robinson ([link](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/experts-warn-alleged-charlie-kirk-193055660.html)). Tyler Robinson will be in court Monday to decide if he goes to trial. Kash has opened the possibility of dismissal. Not sure how much can happen Monday but it will be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1571 "2025-09-24T11:46:10Z")
Who could have predicted that filling the civil service with incompetent camera-hungry boobs might have had a downside? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1572 "2025-09-24T11:48:36Z")
We should take non-bets on just who Patel (et.al.) is going to blame this on. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1573 "2025-09-24T13:11:01Z")
Kirk’s widow was at the tribute, forgiving her husband’s killer and trying to bring down the temperature, something that should have appealed to a stadium filled with supposed Christians. It might have helped a little, but here comes trump with a message of hate for his perceived foes. No room for the widow’s woke sentiments. I don’t know how trumpy the widow is, but she didn’t _have_ to forgive the killer. I don’t think anyone there wanted to hear that. Somehow it reminds me of Rodney King and his “can’t we all just get along?” A noble sentiment, and he’s still being mocked to this day. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1574 "2025-09-24T13:22:26Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > A noble sentiment, and he’s still being mocked to this day. Wait, I was assured that mocking the dead was simply not done? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1575 "2025-09-24T13:38:22Z")
Whatever actually happened, the result stunk up the place. Fortunately, there is a solution, I took it, and now this thread is a lot more sane…if not a tiny bit shorter. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1576 "2025-09-24T13:49:28Z")
It is more like she is “forgiving” the shooter because he wasn’t the one supposedly in charge. “If you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea,” Kirk said during a recent memorial broadcast on her dead husband’s show. “You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country.” Who is the “you” she is talking about here? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1577 "2025-09-24T13:58:51Z")
I think Kirk getting shot is a fluke. Lots of people hated this fucker’s guts, but few so hated him that they wanted to actually kill him. It was a personal grudge what killed him. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1578 "2025-09-24T14:01:24Z")
All reality-based evidence points to this. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1579 "2025-09-24T14:02:43Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I think Kirk getting shot is a fluke. Lots of people hated this fucker’s guts, but few so hated him that they wanted to actually kill him. It was a personal grudge what killed him. It was likely that, and one should not forget (like a few right-wingers here) that there are still gays and trans people that are still Republican. There are also several cans of worms that the right does not want to open, and that is why there is this pathological effort to blame one side for the killing. When it is likely that mental issues (Families with kids with issues who are still being trained on how to use guns like this), Lack of Red Flag laws (Right wingers usually oppose those too), and young right wing people that get disgruntled when they figure out on their own how they were had all their lives by the right wing propaganda or extremely conservative religion. ---
**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1580 "2025-09-24T14:14:52Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Can you fuckers who are engaging Pedro just pop him on ignore please? This thread has gone down the shitter since he arrived, and you fuckers aren’t helping matters by responding to him. > > Thank you for your attention. Amen. I already put him on “Ignore”, but this dude somehow getting so many to take his bait has been a surprise. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=78) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=80)