# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 81
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1601 "2025-09-24T18:06:34Z")
Even with that the Founders, being very influenced by Deism, said Creator endowed not God-given. So it isn’t even in sync with actual historic American patriotism. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1602 "2025-09-24T18:25:10Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Your going with the callback and ‘I’m rubber, you’re glue’? Dude, you don’t deserve to be banned as a troll. The difference is that when I say it it’s true and when you say it it just looks dumb. This one is free because you are trying so hard and that’s just the kind of guy I am. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1603 "2025-09-24T18:29:09Z")
Just skipping over this? > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > > [@Pedro](#): > > > > How about analyzing the quote on second amendment gun rights next? > > How about quotes “humble-cheering for the political assassination of a brilliant young man” from this board? Don’t think that no one has noticed your inability to engage in preference to shit posting. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1604 "2025-09-24T18:31:01Z")
> [@Crane](#): > > His premise is false. > > All US citizens’ rights originate with the Constitution and are defined by the Supreme Court > > You may prove me wrong I wasn’t really offering to defend his eloquent quotes, they speak for themselves. Also I never said I agreed with every word Charlie Kirk ever uttered. That’s lefty thing, idolizing people and hiding any faults they may have, that’s not how I roll. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1605 "2025-09-24T18:35:30Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > I wasn’t really offering to defend his eloquent quotes, they speak for themselves. Oh, just idle bullshit you wanted to share? ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1606 "2025-09-24T18:37:02Z")
> [@Crane](#): > > Oh, just idle bullshit you wanted to share? If you insist… > [@Crane](#): > > All US citizens’ rights originate with the Constitution and are defined by the Supreme Court I agree with you and I think Charlie Kirk got this one wrong. Anything else or can we move on to more interesting topics? ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1607 "2025-09-24T18:38:18Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > Anything else or can we move on to more interesting topics? Your turn select one. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1608 "2025-09-24T18:48:35Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > Also I never said I agreed with every word Charlie Kirk ever uttered. That’s lefty thing, idolizing people and hiding any faults they may have, that’s not how I roll. Clearly, you are just showing that you remain an ignoramus of what Charlie was doing and saying. Talking pretty does not make the efforts of the pretty talker to be good. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1609 "2025-09-24T18:51:47Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > your inability to engage in preference to shit posting. Crow? Stop stating the clearly obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1610 "2025-09-24T18:52:54Z")
It’s pretty obvious, when you really examine the video, that the bulge in his neck corresponded to where the “bullet” hit. The theory is that he was wearing a fake prosthetic neck, and the bulge was squibs. There’s a reason why his body was hustled out of there so fast, and Patel was spoiling the crime scene. Why he would fake his own death is best left to conspiracy theorists. And I end with /s ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1611 "2025-09-24T18:54:20Z")
I wonder if the killer saw the movie Snake Eyes, where a character named Charles Kirkland was shot in the neck on a Sept. 10th. Too weird. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1612 "2025-09-24T18:59:20Z")
And Kirk’s insanity grows after his death. “[Oklahoma](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/oklahoma) State Superintendent of Schools [Ryan Walters](https://www.huffpost.com/topic/ryan-walters) announced plans on Tuesday to establish chapters of conservative activist [Charlie Kirk’](https://www.huffpost.com/topic/charlie-kirk)s right-wing organization, [Turning Point USA,](https://www.huffpost.com/topic/turning-point-usa) in every high school in his state, threatening to revoke school credentials if they don’t comply. “Radical leftist teachers’ unions have dominated classrooms for far too long, and we are taking them back,” Walters wrote on X, announcing a partnership with the conservative activist group.” From [GOP Official Plans To Force Schools Into Creating Turning Point USA Chapters](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gop-official-plans-to-force-schools-into-creating-turning-point-usa-chapters/ar-AA1NdUNm?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=8106dd81ad3d42e29d103eae6279ca43&ei=13) ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1613 "2025-09-24T19:07:43Z")
Good move. Why even have those radical leftist teachers at all? Just turn education over to a nice private entity like Turning Point. What could go wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1614 "2025-09-24T19:13:55Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > “Radical leftist teachers’ unions have dominated classrooms for far too long, and we are taking them back,” Walters wrote on X, Radical leftist teachers in Oklahoma? I sincerely doubt that. (depending, of course, on one’s definition of “radical leftist.”) ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1615 "2025-09-24T20:27:22Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > depending, of course, on one’s definition of “radical leftist.” They teach math, science, critical thinking…and sex ed. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1616 "2025-09-24T21:51:19Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > Just turn education over to a nice private entity like Turning Point. What could go wrong? Good Christian folk, no indoctrination there. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1617 "2025-09-24T21:57:09Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > How about quotes “humble-cheering for the political assassination of a brilliant young man” from this board? Look at this jolly MF for one. What does it take to take away this fucker’s cheery disposition? > [@Cervaise](#): > > Yeah, same. Kirk was (hopefully was) an absolute trash human and absent any other context I’m glad he’s (apparently) dead. _However,_ given the political climate, there’s a meaningful chance this is the tipping point for net-negative consequences. > > Difficult calculus. You are one to talk about trash humans shit for brains. Glad the man is dead just not sure about the political calculus implications yet. What an absolute garbage human @Cervaise is. No surprise there. Shall we go on? Do you want to keep doing these @crowmanyclouds? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1618 "2025-09-24T21:58:50Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Kirk’s widow was at the tribute, forgiving her husband’s killer and trying to bring down the temperature, something that should have appealed to a stadium filled with supposed Christians. It might have helped a little, but here comes trump with a message of hate for his perceived foes. No room for the widow’s woke sentiments. I don’t know how trumpy the widow is, but she didn’t _have_ to forgive the killer. I don’t think anyone there wanted to hear that. So this may have been a genuine attempt on her part to be a good person and mitigate the harm. Certainly Jimmy Kimmel was moved by it last night. And I have no doubt that some Christians actually try to follow the words of Christ and forgive their enemies. This very well may be a case of that – I am not attempting to judge this specific case, only provide some context from my life experience. But I’ve been around conservative Christians before, attended church services, even saw speaking in tongues and that sort of thing. There is, especially in the south, a culture of ostentatiously displaying your religiosity as a way of showing that you’re holier than thou, and making a big public display of forgiving someone who did you wrong is very consistent with that. (Though this is not the case here, it’s especially true if it’s aimed at someone else within your social circle because you’re sort of implicitly calling them out for their misdeeds while you feign holiness – they use a veil of holiness to bash others and lift themselves over them) I hesitated to post this at all because Erika Kirk’s forgiveness may be genuine and admirable and may be well-intentioned, but I suspect Jimmy Kimmel and some of the posters here may not have seen the performative acts of holiness that are common among conservative Christians, and so I think no one who has ever been exposed to that sort of thing may automatically think that this must be an impressive act of personal character. I’ve been debating whether to actually post this or not because if she is genuine, and I’m not willing to invest the time required to try to figure that out, then this is a shitty mistreatment of her words and actions. I only wanted to provide context that this sort of behavior is not always genuine. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1619 "2025-09-24T22:02:05Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > Glad the man is dead Which is not “cheering for the political assassination”. I’d ask if you’re happy Hitler is dead . . . but we already know the answer. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1620 "2025-09-24T22:02:12Z")
A bill will soon go before Congress to put Kirk’s face on US currency - with the Biblical phrase “Well done, good and faithful servant” on it. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little. > **[House GOP bill would put Charlie Kirk on US currency](https://www.rawstory.com/charlie-kirk-us-currency/)** > > House Republicans are reportedly set to introduce legislation to feature slain MAGA influencer Charlie Kirk on U.S. currency.Reps. August Pfluger (R-TX) and Abe Hamadeh (R-AZ) told Fox News Digital that they would file the bill later this week. If... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=80) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=82)