# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 82
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1621 "2025-09-24T22:02:58Z")
That is insane. What next? ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1622 "2025-09-24T22:05:15Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Which is not “cheering for the political assassination”. That is only done after the net positive political spoils are assured. > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I’d ask if you’re happy Hitler is dead . . . but we already know the answer. Clever. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1623 "2025-09-24T22:08:13Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > That is only done after the net positive political spoils are assured. Umm, you do realize that you are saying your example is not valid? ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1624 "2025-09-24T22:10:11Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Umm, you do realize that you are saying your example is not valid? It’s kind of funny that you would even try to argue on a technicality like that but we already know you are just a troll so nothing you say means anything anyway. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1625 "2025-09-24T22:12:58Z")
What technicality? I used your original standard which did not include future events! ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1626 "2025-09-24T22:23:16Z")
Performative grief is one thing, but these guys are really pushing it. No one believes they loved the fucker _that_ much. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1627 "2025-09-24T22:29:56Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > No one believes they loved the fucker _that_ much. Wait nine or ten months. 🍼👶 ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1628 "2025-09-24T22:37:50Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Did he always speak in bumper stickers? Here is another Charlie Kirk quote that maybe gives a sense of the man: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/urN56M9hn0I/maxresdefault.jpg "The Power of Civil Conversation 💬") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urN56M9hn0I) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1629 "2025-09-24T22:44:50Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Obviously, the standards are _much_ laxer here, but if someone were to _only_ post bullshit _just_ to stir shit up, they _could_ be modded even here. (Is that right, @Miller?) Yeah, this is correct. While the general definition of trolling as “posting to make other people angry” obviously doesn’t really work with the Pit (which was created specifically for insulting each other), if _all_ a poster ever does is get in giant flame wars in the Pit, we’ll usually remove them as a troll. We will also ban people for trolling if it turns out their controversial opinions are manufactured for the purpose of stirring controversy, although that’s a lot harder to objectively demonstrate. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1630 "2025-09-24T22:56:32Z")
Before the shoiting, Jezebel had an article about witches on Esty you could pay to curse someone, and after browsing available curses decided to have Kirk cursed with zits. Reportedly that scared the Kirks so much they had someone come over and pray over him to cancel out the zit curse. Apparently they weren’t expansive enough with their protection counter-spell. > **[Charlie, Erika Kirk 'Rattled' and Prayed With Priest Befo...](https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-erika-kirk-rattled-prayed-with-priest-day-before-killing-10477909)** > > Megyn Kelly said that a priest prayed over Kirk the day before he died after an article claimed a curse had been placed on him. (Jezabel deleted the article, but luckily the Internet Archive caotured it 37 times before they did.) > **[We Paid Some Etsy Witches to Curse Charlie Kirk](https://web.archive.org/web/20250908211158/https://www.jezebel.com/we-paid-some-etsy-witches-to-curse-charlie-kirk)** > > If the far-right misogynist with a bad haircut wants to villainize independent women, Jezebel is more than happy to be the hag of his nightmares. (Rereading the article, it isn’t entirely clear which curses were pruchased.) ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1631 "2025-09-24T23:01:52Z")
Hm. The bible says, “A curse causeless shall not come.” Ok, I’m paraphrasing but it says that. Proverbs 26.2 ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1632 "2025-09-24T23:04:29Z")
Hmm, Charlie did have that big white head. Punctuate as you wish. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1633 "2025-09-24T23:27:54Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > That is insane. What next? I hate to give Trump any ideas, but if he put Kirk on the back of his [$TRUMPCOIN](https://www.homernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/31407955_web1_M1-Trump-2024-Coin-Teaser-copy.jpg) instead of the eagle he’d increase his pool of investors. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1634 "2025-09-24T23:35:22Z")
> **[Charlie Kirk price today, CHARLIEKIRK to USD live price, marketcap and chart...](https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/charlie-kirk/)** > > The live Charlie Kirk price today is $0.000000007574 USD with a 24-hour trading volume of $0 USD. We update our CHARLIEKIRK to USD price in real-time. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1635 "2025-09-25T01:07:44Z")
I’ll wait until after the price comes down a little. After all the furor. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1636 "2025-09-25T01:12:37Z")
I don’t think the people who attended Woodstock left that much garbage behind. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/6uYXrT4pmxU/maxresdefault.jpg "This is who they are") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uYXrT4pmxU) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1637 "2025-09-25T01:19:31Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > Here is another Charlie Kirk quote that maybe gives a sense of the man: No maybes about it, he said one pretty thing and his org did the opposite of what he claimed. > **[Maryland professors were targeted by Charlie Kirk. Now what?](https://www.thebanner.com/education/higher-education/charlie-kirk-maryland-professors-watchlist-RBDSLYUHUJHHDMED6XHDXHOSGY/)** > > After Charlie Kirk was assassinated on Wednesday, some of his professor targets in Maryland worry for their own safety and feel anxious about the climate of distrust he sowed among young people. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1638 "2025-09-25T01:23:08Z")
A statement made by a man who did a Zoom call with “adult content” playing on a screen behind him? Where do these people come from, anyway? This story made me think of THIS other story that I saw on YouTube earlier today. TL : DW - a foul odor that permeated a South Carolina high school was traced to a teacher’s aide, who was putting “fart spray” in the HVAC system. Okay, I could see Beavis and Butthead doing that, but a 32-year-old teacher’s aide? OTOH, maybe if it was in the building occupied by Ryan Walters, it might actually make sense. > **[Teaching assistant arrested after ongoing foul odor at West Florence High School](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcO_H7Ou61g%2F)** > > The Florence County Sheriff's Office (FCSO) arrested a man on Friday following ongoing disturbances from students and parents regarding a mysterious odor thr... ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1639 "2025-09-25T01:26:25Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > I just felt a pain pang thinking people like you breed. Well done sir. Now, now - attacking your parents for producing you is not kind and failing to honor your father and mother, that is completely unseemly. > [@Pedro](#): > > “False witness”. Is that dumbass-speak for people who assume I am religious? Are you in fact religious? > [@Pedro](#): > > So the only moron here is you trying to stick that climaphobe label and using dumbspeak to witness in favor of science. Please don’t attempt newspeak unless you actually have some skill in it. The only dupe here is you trying to stick that doubleplus badfeel about climate label and using oldthink and thoughtcrime to witness in favor of science. If you require further assistance in achieving a plusgood knowledge of newspeak the MiniTru helpline is available during regular business hours at your local branch of the Republican party and Heritage Foundation. > [@Pedro](#): > > I mean, you have to be a performance act at this point, right? You need to keep it believable friend. That’s why I keep wondering if there’s a bot involved here somewhere. You’re a performance act. > [@Pedro](#): > > After your side got the peaceful political activist brutally murdered…. You know, for ages I’ve wondered why the Rabid Right keeps seeing conspiracies where there are none. Why they just can’t accept the notion of a lone gunman acting on his own initiative. I think I get it now. They want to feel important. Being the focus of a conspiracy means you’re important. The victim of a random loony? Not so important. That’s just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I’m sorry, little Pedro, that you aren’t more important. That your hero Charlie Kirk wasn’t more important. I know it hurts your feelings because I’m one of those woke people with empathy and I can’t help but see your fear that you really don’t matter a frog’s fart in the greater whole of the universe. Well… you aren’t. You aren’t the focus of a great conspiracy and no, you don’t matter. You really don’t. Even here, you don’t matter. You’re just a chew-toy for the troll-baiters who are toying with you until they either get bored and move on, or you misstep and do something to get yourself banned. > [@Gyrate](#): > > No, only the official Trumpian narrative matters. And if it’s the opposite of what it was yesterday, you must be remembering incorrectly. The succinct term for that is “doublethink”. > [@Pedro](#): > > I understand the shock at someone who has been a member here for a long time and has a backbone, I know you are willfully ignoring my implication that YOU are not the original holder of that account. There are so many possibilities here. Did dear old Tio Pedro pass on to a heavenly reward and you found a scrap of paper with his username and password on it in his effects? Decided to have a little fun with it? > [@Pedro](#): > > Besides all the friends I made along the way I would have to say the best part of this thread is how you were exposed as a bunch of amoral brainrotted dickheads… Goddammit, at least try to come up with some original insults. You sound like a crippled AI repeating the same word salad in a slightly different order. > [@Pedro](#): > > On Individual Liberty > “When you surrender liberty for security, you lose both.” And when your political party opposes common sense gun laws, help for the mentally ill, and spews hatred towards those who are different there is a non-zero chance you’ll die from a bullet. But by now we’ve all heard Kirk’s view that a few murders are an acceptable sacrifice for guns, guns, and more guns. Personally, I disagree - I don’t think anyone’s murder is acceptable. > [@Pedro](#): > > On Hard Work > “Success is not guaranteed, but hard work always improves your odds.” But if you’re a White, cis, Christian, heterosexual male favoring a patriarchal society based on bigotry and entitlement increases your odds even further. > [@Pedro](#): > > On Truth > “Truth is not determined by the loudest voice, but by reality itself.” And that’s why so many members of the MAGA cult are such pathetic losers - realty keeps bitch-slapping them, but they are incapable of learning cause and effect. > [@Pedro](#): > > On Debate > “Healthy debate makes us stronger; censorship makes us weaker.” Which is why…. Trump is so determined to pull late night comedians off the air? Wants to jail and prosecute his political opponents? Then again, we’re talking about an orange buffoon who can’t say “acetaminophen” without help, even though it was known in advance that word was in his prepared speech. > [@Pedro](#): > > On Family > “Strong families create strong nations.” And yet… the American Right Wing has been pulling families apart since the first Trump administration. > [@Pedro](#): > > On History > “If you erase history, you will repeat its mistakes.” Which I believe will be the downfall of the MAGA/Trump cult due to their insistence on trying to re-write history where they’re not outright attempting to disappear the facts. > [@Pedro](#): > > On College Campuses > “College campuses should be marketplaces of ideas, not safe spaces from them.” Well Ol’ Charlie certainly proved they aren’t “safe spaces”…. > [@Pedro](#): > > On Free Enterprise > “Free enterprise empowers people to achieve their dreams without government interference.” Says a spokesman for a political party attempting to control the bodies of its citizens, dictate what is said in the media, and destroying businesses across this nation. > [@Pedro](#): > > The difference is that when I say it it’s true and when you say it it just looks dumb. I am pointing at you and laughing. > [@ekedolphin](#): > > A bill will soon go before Congress to put Kirk’s face on US currency - with the Biblical phrase “Well done, good and faithful servant” on it. Performative patriotism at work. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1640 "2025-09-25T01:26:53Z")
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