# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1921 "2025-09-30T23:10:17Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > , I mean getting your carotid artery blown up by a sniper for hosting a college debate. Is that one of Kash’s conclusions? ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1922 "2025-09-30T23:29:10Z")
Charlie Kirk protected pedophiles? Say it ain’t so! ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1923 "2025-10-01T02:46:53Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > > [@scudsucker](#): > > > > You are probably loved by people other than you. > > Probably. Maybe? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1924 "2025-10-01T03:02:06Z")
Stranger things have happened. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1925 "2025-10-01T03:24:30Z")
True enough. There’s still at least a chance Elroy Patashnik will be back for the _Community_ movie (if it ever happens). ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1926 "2025-10-01T04:04:52Z")
Kirk loved pedrophiles. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1927 "2025-10-01T04:23:49Z")
Given the _extreme_ misanthropy of the Right and how hard they work at alienating everyone close to them, the odds are good that the typical right winger _isn’t_ loved by anyone else. If such people are right wingers themselves then they don’t love anyone; and if they aren’t they experience constant hostility or worse. Which isn’t conducive to love. But _is_ conducive to relatives and (former) friends distancing themselves out of self preservation; which of course the right wingers blame on the people fleeing their presence rather than themselves. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1928 "2025-10-01T14:06:01Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Kirk loved pedrophiles. Since there is no support for the pedo enablers, the reality is that the ones that are in the wrong side are the ones that supported Kirk. He did talk pretty about letting Trump and the enablers in congress to continue with the coverup. That ongoing coverup is what most people (even Republicans) are not swallowing up. > **[Trump’s Epstein problem is real: New poll shows many in his base disapprove...](https://theconversation.com/trumps-epstein-problem-is-real-new-poll-shows-many-in-his-base-disapprove-of-his-handling-of-the-files-and-some-supporters-are-having-second-thoughts-about-electing-him-263662)** > > The MAGA base is not happy. Trump’s handling of the Epstein controversy has done significant damage to his standing, particularly among his core supporters. > Moreover, most believe that Trump is fumbling the matter. > > Seven in 10 Americans believe that Trump is handling the matter “not well.” This includes pluralities of Trump’s most loyal supporters, 43% of Republicans, 43% of conservatives, and 47% of those who voted for him in 2024. > > When we drill down on the 47% of 2024 Trump voters who disapprove of Trump’s handling of the Epstein controversy, we find significant cracks in the MAGA facade. Among members of this group, 28% now disapprove of Trump as president. Seeing the violence taking place, it is more likely that Kirk’s killer was mostly a disgruntled conservative that did see that retreat, regarding the release of the Epstein files, as one betrayal too many. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1929 "2025-10-01T14:43:00Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Maybe? Even Charlie (Manson, that is. Swimmin pools, movie stars) got marriage proposals in prison. The world is full of women with low self-esteem that fall in love with murders. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1930 "2025-10-01T16:16:19Z")
Weird. Most murderers are not attractive. Charlie wasnt but his friend Bobby Beausoleil surely was. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1931 "2025-10-01T16:34:34Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > The world is full of women with low self-esteem that fall in love with murders. I’m not sure it’s low self esteem so much as, “I can fix him!” ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1932 "2025-10-01T16:39:48Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Since there is no support for the pedo enablers True but the joke was that Kirk was a pedro-phile. And based on this thread, the feeling was certainly mutual ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1933 "2025-10-01T16:50:37Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > I’m not sure it’s low self esteem so much as, “I can fix him!” “Sure the guy I am marrying, who murdered all his former wives on their wedding night, dismembered their bodies and made furniture, won’t do that to me!” ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1934 "2025-10-02T04:49:56Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > I’m not sure it’s low self esteem so much as, “I can fix him!” I think it’s the the common attraction of women to “bad boys” taken to its logical extreme; you don’t get much more of a bad boy than a murderer. Dangerously irrational behavior is often just ordinary behavior taken to its extreme. _Most_ women attracted to “bad boys” would draw the line well short of murderers; but with a population of many millions of women it takes only a small percentage of statistical outliers to produce quite a few women who _won’t_ draw that line. ---
**Author:** ![SailorHG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@SailorHG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SailorHG)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1935 "2025-10-02T08:14:25Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Seeing the violence taking place, it is more likely that Kirk’s killer was mostly a disgruntled conservative that did see that retreat, regarding the release of the Epstein files, as one betrayal too many. I’d _love_ it if this came out during the trial… Prosecutor: Why’d you do it? Accused: Because he was helping Trump cover up the Epstein Files! If he said that, the jury might even let him off! ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1936 "2025-10-02T15:29:56Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > True but the joke was that Kirk was a pedro-phile. And based on this thread, the feeling was certainly mutual I’m glad someone got my lame joke! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1937 "2025-10-02T21:21:04Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I’m glad someone got my lame joke! 🙂 I got it too, but I did notice that Pedro is no longer with us, so just going forward… And noticing here that a cite I made on September 28; that pointed that Turning Point is a right wing organization and that Charlie Kirk promoted Christian Nationalism and attracted racists and bigots, was removed **by the very same Anti-Defamation League I cited** , just because Musk and the right wingers complained loudly… 🤦‍♂️ > **[Anti-Defamation League takes down extremism research after Musk leads...](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/oct/01/anti-defamation-league-removes-extremism-research)** > > Prominent US Jewish advocacy and anti-hate organization removed over a thousand pages of research ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1938 "2025-10-02T23:05:32Z")
**She Was Fired for a Comment on Her Private Facebook Account:** A look at how one state has turbocharged the crackdown on anyone who has criticized Charlie Kirk after his death. > Two days after Charlie Kirk was killed, Suzanne Swierc, an employee at Ball State University in Muncie, Ind., woke up to a cascade of missed calls, texts and voice mail messages from numbers she did not know. “They were calling me all kinds of names, threatening my job,” Ms. Swierc said. “It was every awful curse word under the sun.”… > > Ms. Swierc (pronounced swirtz) discovered that the barrage stemmed from something she had posted on Facebook the day before: **“If you think Charlie Kirk was a wonderful person, we can’t be friends.”** Her Facebook settings were private, but one of her followers must have taken a screen shot and sent it on without her knowledge. [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/29/us/charlie-kirk-free-speech.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/29/us/charlie-kirk-free-speech.html) And she was fired. Not glad Kirk was dead, just “If you think Charlie Kirk was a wonderful person, we can’t be friends.” And posted privately. Crazy. PS: Perhaps someone could post a gift link. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1939 "2025-10-02T23:38:11Z")
It’s like they’re incapable of not being hypocrites on every conceivable level. You can’t even reach that level of hypocrisy by chance. They hate “cancel culture” and yet… ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1940 "2025-10-02T23:55:15Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > They hate “cancel culture” and yet… As always, IOKWARDI. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=96) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=98)