# Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916 "2025-09-10T19:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 99
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1961 "2025-10-09T19:58:21Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > “Kirk’s Klux Klan” is just wrong. But oh so right for a new chain of chicken restaurants! ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1962 "2025-10-09T19:58:50Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Turning Point USA will host their alternative Super Bowl halftime show, which of course will celebrate “faith, family and freedom”. “faith” for right-thinking Christians “family” for the non-gays “freedom” for the horribly oppressed MAGAs ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1963 "2025-10-09T20:03:03Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > “faith” for right-thinking Christians > “family” for the non-gays > “freedom” for the horribly oppressed MAGAs > . “tanning spray” for the Orange god ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1964 "2025-10-09T21:11:50Z")
If Bad Bunny bothers you, bud, then Puppy Bowl beats out anything ToiletPaperUSA could come up with. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1965 "2025-10-09T21:21:51Z")
Knowing this administration, I think they will go for [Kitten War](https://www.kittenwar.com/). And today I found out that [kittenwar.com](http://kittenwar.com) is still up and running! ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1966 "2025-10-09T21:25:01Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Florida state Rep. Kevin Steele (R) filed a bill Tuesday that threatens state funding to public universities and colleges if they do not rename specific roads after [conservative activist](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/live-updates-trump-economic-moves-124114041.html) Charlie Kirk. Oh, right, Charlie Kirk, community college drop-out. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1967 "2025-10-10T02:22:51Z")
And West Point reject. Him and Madison Cawthorn’s legs should get together in hell. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1968 "2025-10-10T03:50:13Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > And West Point reject. He claims he applied and was rejected. Much later, he claimed he’d been told it was because he was the wrong gender and sexuality (yeah, right). I’d be surprised if he actually applied. He couldn’t get into a _non_-community college - why would he think he could get into West Point? ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1969 "2025-10-10T04:09:25Z")
Color me naive, but I don’t think “West Point reject” is too much of a flex. In fact, that or some other excuse for why they didn’t serve in the military is pretty much a prerequisite for right-wing grifter. Well, that or they actually did serve (it’s unsurprising, really: the military has always had a fascist streak running through it). ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1970 "2025-10-10T04:27:30Z")
So his position is that West Point rejects straight white men? Hmm, I wonder how we could test such a hypothesis ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1971 "2025-10-10T07:49:18Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Turning Point USA will host their alternative Super Bowl halftime show, which of course will celebrate “faith, family and freedom”. Accompanied by what will surely be the shittiest music you’ve ever heard. (Or are they dumb enough to use artists’ songs without permission like some politicians do?) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1972 "2025-10-10T08:12:44Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > This may belong elsewhere as well, but it certainly is appropriate for this thread. > > Turning Point USA will host their alternative Super Bowl halftime show, which of course will celebrate “faith, family and freedom”. I just came to this thread to post that story. Hey, here’s an idea! Let’s see if we can get the far-right to freak out over football itself by telling them it’s a Canadian import. [And it’s never too soon to start the indoctrination.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/teacher-assigned-homework-life-legacy-134924682.html) (I removed the formatting for readability.) > [@](#): > > In a [video](https://www.tiktok.com/@neeltheillest/video/7556702294444608823) with over 6.1 million views on TikTok, a parent with the username [neeltheillest](https://www.tiktok.com/@neeltheillest) shows viewers what appears to be his child’s latest assignment. It’s a packet designed to teach students about the recently killed and conservative podcaster’s beliefs. I’ll spare you the details. Feel free to read the rest of the article. Also freel free to notice the incredible hypocrisy of blaming the left for indoctrinating the nation’s youth and then pulling this stunt. [Here’s a commentator whom the felon can’t get fired over comments about Kirk.](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tv/articles/trevor-noah-defiantly-tells-charlie-193038649.html) > [@](#): > > Trevor Noah demonstrated the liberation of no longer being a late-night talk show host this week when he shared some new stand-up material about the late Charlie Kirk. > > The former _Daily Show_ host was sounding off on the [backlash](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/bill-burr-goes-nuclear-critics-163738912.html) that [American comedians](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/dave-chappelle-uses-saudi-show-205632485.html) [received for performing](https://www.thedailybeast.com/gay-comedian-jessica-kirson-expresses-sincere-regret-for-saudi-arabia-riyadh-festival-performance/) at [Saudi Arabia’s state-sponsored Riyadh Comedy Festival](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tv/articles/jimmy-kimmel-grills-aziz-ansari-153614054.html), which began on the heels of the conservative activist’s assassination last month. The festival also coincided with Jimmy Kimmel’s suspension from ABC for his comments on the aftermath of Kirk’s death. > > “It’s almost perfect comedy timing that this happened now, right? Because had this comedy festival happened at any other time, I think America as an idea would have had more of a leg to stand on as a moral authority,” Noah said on stage at the Comedy Cellar in New York. > > “This is the same country where a few weeks ago, you know, Jimmy Kimmel gets kicked off his show—for _not_ making” a joke about Kirk’s death, he pointed out, as Kimmel’s comments were about MAGA’s reaction to the shooting. “I went back to look for the joke that they said… there is no joke,” Noah continued. > > And as long the MAGA right keeps insisting there’s “nothing funny” about Kirk’s death, Noah said that will only make him want to prove them wrong. > > “You can’t say there’s nothing funny about it… The guy was shot while defending guns. Do you understand how I’m not even writing that as a joke? As a human, you have to admit that is an incongruous funny thing that happens.” ---
**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1973 "2025-10-10T10:48:24Z")
You can see the whole discussion/comedy bit on youtube where he addresses it after someone asks about the Saudi Arabia Comedy Festival: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/U9bfuM7YR2U/maxresdefault.jpg "Saudi Comedy Festival, Charlie Kirk - Between the Scenes") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9bfuM7YR2U) `//i\\` ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1974 "2025-10-10T10:50:23Z")
As we continue exhaustively enumerating the ways in which this guy was a Grade A Piece of Shit, I think it behooves us to recall that his organization is #109 on Newsweek’s list of organizations involved with Project 2025: > **[Project 2025: Full list of organizations behind proposals](https://www.newsweek.com/project-2025-full-list-organizations-proposals-1923240)** > > Project 2025 published a handbook proposing an overhaul of the government if Donald Trump wins back the White House in November. It’s alphabetical. Don’t be too crestfallen about his low placement on that list 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1975 "2025-10-10T14:35:26Z")
The infection is spreading… (gift link) > **[Thousands of Miles From the U.S., Charlie Kirk Becomes a Political Tool](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/08/world/americas/charlie-kirk-peru-porky.html?unlocked_article_code=1.sU8.r5G-.pHWfEPk7RnJI&smid=url-share)** > > The mayor of Lima, Peru, held a Charlie Kirk memorial — filled with attendees bused in from poor neighborhoods — as he sought help from the Trump administration. A hard right candidate in Peru’s presidential election is trying to get on the Charlie Kirk martyr band wagon. Fortunately it doesn’t seem to be working for him, engendering more confusion than it does support. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1976 "2025-10-10T15:35:17Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Also freel free to notice the incredible hypocrisy of blaming the left for indoctrinating the nation’s youth and then pulling this stunt. It is, of course, not _indoctrination_ when you’re teaching kids the correct things. /s ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1977 "2025-10-11T01:08:53Z")
One thing I hadn’t run across before was the vile things he had to say about Simone Biles when she had to withdraw from the women’s finals at the Tokyo Olympics. > “We are raising a generation of weak people like Simone Biles,” he told listeners to his podcast _The Charlie Kirk Show_. “If she’s got all these mental health problems: don’t show up.” > > He continued: “She’s an incredible athlete, of course she’s an incredible athlete, I’m not saying that—she’s probably the greatest gymnast of all time. She’s also very selfish, she’s immature and she’s a shame to the country.” > > Kirk also branded Biles a sociopath over her decision. > > “She’s totally a sociopath,” he said. “What kind of person skips the gold medal match? Who does that? It’s a shame to the nation. You just gave a gift to the Russians.” > > He continued: “If you’re not ready for the big time, we’ve got thousands of young gymnasts that would love to take your place. Thousands. Simone Biles just showed the rest of the nation that when things get tough, you shatter into a million pieces.” > **[Charlie Kirk Brands Simone Biles 'Shame to the Country' after Olympics Exit](https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-brands-simone-biles-shame-country-after-olympics-exit-1613809)** > > "If you're not ready for the big time, we've got thousands of young gymnasts that would love to take your place," the conservative activist said of Biles, the most decorated U.S. gymnast of all time. And from [Politico](https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/07/29/simone-biles-and-the-magaverses-fetish-of-toughness-501515): > “We are raising a generation of weak people like Simone Biles,” said Kirk, who appears in television [ads for pain-relief supplements](https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1405627303649067012?s=20). The pain relief supplement is, of course, a grift. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1978 "2025-10-11T02:42:38Z")
Charlie Kirk: a man who never ceased to criticize people who did so much more with their lives than he ever could have. The most constructive thing he ever did was stoke hate and gun violence until hate and gun violence claimed his own life. So in a way, Charlie Kirk’s death was just an elaborate suicide. Like one of those novelty toys that turns itself off the moment you turn it on. A useless machine. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/1979 "2025-10-11T04:36:46Z")
He criticized Biles for not completing something? That’s rich. He dropped out of university and then community college, didn’t he? ---
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People are working swiftly to monetize this guy’s death before he fades into oblivious irrelevancy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=98) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916.md?page=100)