Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event [now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025]

Fighting ingnorance is much easier than fighting ingnoramuses. Magatrash are immune things like logic, truth and reason. In other words, don’t bother.

Was anyone here actually gleeful that Kirk was murdered? If so, it was a tiny minority. Good people die every day. People with real accomplishments, people who tried to make this world a little bit better. Kirk was a grifting opportunist who contributed nothing.Gleeful, no. Indifferent, for sure.

Of course Kirk shoudn’t have been murdered, but it’s definitely not the ‘feft’ that’s going to benefit from it. When the maga crowd gathers to mourn the senseless murder of the Hortmans, I’ll be the first to acknowledge their principled stand. Until then, Trump and all the rest of them can go suck a bag of dead dog’s dicks.

So you can’t defend him. I think you are one of the many people who blindly accept what right wing media tells you Kirk is about and are actually afraid to check it out for yourselves. It might make you think and that would cause serious cognitive dissonance and you can’t have that.

I’m not sure he does. See above comment. He just wants to troll for some reason. That’s easier than confronting reality.

“Beware that, when fighting the liberals, you yourself do not become a liberal, for when you gaze long into Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk also gazes into you.” or something.

I think this is an astute observation. Pedro and his ilk are cowards. Just miserable fucking cowards. Not worth arguing with because they won’t even stand to defend themselves.

Why are people engaging Pedro? Please just ignore him. He’s not going to change, you’re never going to convince him, and it’s ruining the thread. Don’t give him what he wants.

From what I saw, she couldn’t keep her hands off him either.

Was Melanie there?

Melania did not attend.

It is unclear, however, if Melanie was there.

I watched the video. I do not know what political ideal you think he is expressing here but I do not like the rhetoric he used in this case, no. It’s not clear if by “for fun” he is talking about pranking (which he describes in the video in more detail) or other kinds of violent crime. One is more problematic than the other but either way it sounds unnecessarily inflamatory to me.

Okay, you classify it as “inflammatory”. Agreed, and also racist, in my book.

But earlier you said that some of his ideals align with your political ideals. I don’t find this statement political at all, just divisional and a way to get more deep-pocket donors for his think tank.

So we both don’t like that statement. But you like something about him. Was there anything he said or did in his career that you support him? Say, would you donate to his organization Turning Point USA?

IOW, I won’t celebrate anyone getting shot to death. But I found him so offensive and racist, I can never celebrate his life or his work. So what am I (and other SDMB members) missing?

I can certainly see how in isolation this quote you selected from all the hours of content he published can be considered racist. If you look at the totality of his work, at least the one I’m familiar with, it should dispel the notion that he is a horrible racist.

More later.

Suuuurrrreeee,
“They (black people) were actually better in the 1940s. It was bad. It was evil. But what happened? Something changed. They committed less crimes.”

Certain Black women “do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.”

“Forget it, Crow. It’s MAGAtown.”

IOW DNFTT

Please comment on ths quote about Joy Reid,
Michelle Obama, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Ketanji Brown Jackson:

“You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.”

I get that lot’s of folks want that done. I’m also aware of the troll that I think I got banned by force feeding them until they shat over the trolling line.

You previously said you didn’t know much about Charlie Kirk. Now you’re saying the “totality of his work” or at least the “one you’re familiar with” might change my mind. Willing to look at this clip or article.

If you could please post what you’re specifically referring to about his work, I’ll take a look.

I’ve seen a lot of horrible quotes brought to light after he was killed. I haven’t seen anything not horrible. Someone should post something not horrible he ever said if it exists.

I think Melanoma and trumpo are on the outs. The IKEA lamp he has with him in England was just some actress.

So that happened. Sometimes I forget how the SDMB is filled with extremely vicious but incredibly stupid and transparent shitstains. Good luck with that tootsie.

Yes, it did, and you’re not doing a very good job in your defense against the accusation.