# Trump and a feeling of momentum for impeachment **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 16, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785 "2017-05-16T19:40:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/81 "2017-05-17T15:37:30Z")
What’s Il Douche to do? Well, hold rallies, of course! I can hardly wait. And the future _Fox and Frauds_ headline: **Senate Names Trump to President Emeritus!** "Today, by unanimous vote, the Senate has elevated Donald Trump to be America’s first President Emeritus. The President Emeritus will abstain from the mundane and trivial everyday duties of President to allow him more time for glorious and transcendent incandescence. In a rare gesture of graciousness, President Trump has insisted that Vice-President Pence be officially “inaugurated” as President. Due to an upsurge in violent deranged hippie college radicals, preparations are under way to move PE Trump to a secure location in Leavenworth, Kansas…" ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/82 "2017-05-17T15:37:51Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Too much _idiot_, not enough _useful_ Trump Family Motto right there: Nimium Ineptus Non Satis Utilis ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/83 "2017-05-17T15:42:36Z")
If impeachment fails on the 1st try, then attempting it up again and again would be perceived as a political ploy. It would be perceived as being more about partisanship than about genuine impeachment. And while I think Trump has already done a lot that is deserving of impeachment, does anyone else get this impression that…some people support impeachment just because they think it would be “interesting?” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/84 "2017-05-17T15:51:18Z")
Many would go with “interesting”. Me, I’ll settle on “groovy”. It is the way of my people. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/85 "2017-05-17T15:56:02Z")
Verging on the bitchin’. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/86 "2017-05-17T16:05:13Z")
There are two new heavy straws on this camel’s back. I think one more will just about do it. Sadly, the only way to impeachment from his base’s disapproval would prob be to let Ryan’s healthcare agenda pass and then just wait. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/87 "2017-05-17T16:14:00Z")
[Amash](http://thehill.com/homenews/house/333803-first-republican-raises-impeachment-for-trump) becomes the first Republican in the House to use the I-word. He wouldn’t do it if he didn’t feel politically safe doing it. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/88 "2017-05-17T17:11:58Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > What’s Il Douche to do? Well, hold rallies, of course! I can hardly wait. > > And the future _Fox and Frauds_ headline: > > **Senate Names Trump to President Emeritus!** > > “Today, by unanimous vote, the Senate has elevated Donald Trump to be America’s first President Emeritus. The President Emeritus will abstain from the mundane and trivial everyday duties of President to allow him more time for glorious and transcendent incandescence. In a rare gesture of graciousness, President Trump has insisted that Vice-President Pence be officially “inaugurated” as President.” Great idea! Golden parachute, as it were. Make Trump and his supporters think it was his brilliant idea all along. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/89 "2017-05-17T17:24:14Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Great idea! Golden parachute, as it were. Make Trump and his supporters think it was his brilliant idea all along. Well, shit, that WAS his idea all along. Don’t you remember Jarod interviewing Pence and being quoted as asking Pence if he’d like to the “most powerful VP in history, in charge of foreign and domestic matters”? Pence reported asked what Trump would be in charge of, and the answer was “making America great again!” (paraphrasing from memory). ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/90 "2017-05-17T17:31:48Z")
That was the deal he offered Kasich, who turned it down. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/91 "2017-05-17T17:34:22Z")
Yeah, but Kasich, like the rest of us, thought Trump would lose the election. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/92 "2017-05-17T17:36:07Z")
I think one thing that helps Trump a lot is the level of vociferous Democratic opposition. If Trump would have been treated well by Democrats and liberals prior to the actions that are being treated as impeachment material, and then in response to these actions there began a move to impeach him, it would have more credibility. But there’s been extreme opposition even before all of this (particularly over the Russia issue, which so far has been all smoke and no fire), and this leads many people - especially Trump supporters - to discount any and all opposition to Trump as being just more of the same. I read an interesting article recently which attributed Trump’s election victory (at least in part) to late night comedians mocking him. The writer felt that their constant mocking of Trump helped him, in that it promoted a partisan backlash by viewers who identified with Trump’s positions and felt that they themselves were being mocked too. > [@John\_Mace](#): > > Yeah, but Kasich, like the rest of us, thought Trump would lose the election. Had Kasich taken the deal it’s extremely unlikely that Trump would have stuck to it after the election. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/93 "2017-05-17T17:36:21Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > That was the deal he offered Kasich, who turned it down. I saw a Kasich interview on CNN where he was burbling about ‘I hate to say I told you so but…I TOLD YOU SO!’. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/94 "2017-05-17T17:38:47Z")
He’s also thinking he can beat Pence for the 2020 nomination, based on his backtracking from his earlier statement that he’s never running for office again. Pence took the job because it was the only way he could get out of Indiana without tar and feathers. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/95 "2017-05-17T17:45:39Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Trump Family Motto right there: > > Nimium Ineptus Non Satis Utilis I am so going to steal that for something, but I have no idea what yet. Maybe a slight change to Nimium Ineptus nihilum Utilis ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/96 "2017-05-17T17:46:12Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > Well, shit, that WAS his idea all along. Don’t you remember Jarod interviewing Pence and being quoted as asking Pence if he’d like to the “most powerful VP in history, in charge of foreign and domestic matters”? Pence reported asked what Trump would be in charge of, and the answer was “making America great again!” (paraphrasing from memory). (It’s taking longer than we thought) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/97 "2017-05-17T17:50:01Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > I think one thing that helps Trump a lot is the level of vociferous Democratic opposition… Eh, this is the same bullshit as Roderick Fenns “we really ought to be nicer to nazi’s and haters” foolishness. "Lol, it’s the Dems fault that Trump is President. If you guys hadn’t been so mean, we would’ve voted for JEB! But since y’all weren’t nice, we chose Trump." You really believe this bullshit, FP? ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/98 "2017-05-17T17:54:00Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > This, I suspect, is the answer. No offense, but I think you probably live most of your day inside a liberal bubble that gives you the impression impeachment is imminent. Go check out some conservative sources and message boards, and see what they are talking about. It doesn’t appear, to me, to be serious consideration of impeachment. It is hilarious when non-liberals talk about a “liberal bubble.” The actual research that has ever been done on this shows that by any reasonable measure liberals are not bubbled, as a whole, while conservatives are. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/99 "2017-05-17T17:54:26Z")
The more Democrats oppose Trump, the more the GOP rank and file will demand that the GOP help Trump \*withstand \*impeachment. Better for Democrats to be quiet for a few months and let the GOP do the loud vocal criticism of Trump and impeaching of Trump, with the Dems only showing up to cast votes on Impeachment Day. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785/100 "2017-05-17T17:57:25Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > [Amash](http://thehill.com/homenews/house/333803-first-republican-raises-impeachment-for-trump) becomes the first Republican in the House to use the I-word. He wouldn’t do it if he didn’t feel politically safe doing it. [Curbelo too.](http://thehill.com/homenews/house/333803-first-republicans-talk-impeachment-for-trump) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-a-feeling-of-momentum-for-impeachment/786785.md?page=6)