# Trump and farts **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 25, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690 "2023-09-25T21:42:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690/1 "2023-09-25T21:42:05Z")
(Not sure where this goes–seems a little ranty for Politics and Elections) Once I figured out thanks to a thread in Factual Questions [right here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-trump-really-mean-fart-in-british-slang-pre-trump/990672) that the word “trump” really does mean “fart” at least in the north of England, I started wondering why more hasn’t been made of this coincidence. Probably the regionality, I guess. If it were in wider use, could he even have gotten started in politics? I mean, we used to tell jokes in grade school about Johnny Fuckerfaster and Franklin Delano Shit (“Your Honor, I’d like to change my name to just plain ‘Joe Shit’”), but imagine if his name were Donald Fart, or Donald Ffartt or something like that–that’s a total non-starter, amirite? Anyway, because the Straight Dope relies on the written word, my next idea wouldn’t work in this 100% written medium, but I’d like to start using fart noises instead of his name when I speak about him. You know “Did you hear what [fart noise, either axillary or labial] said about General Milley yesterday?” It would be fabulous if the media would buy into this idea, and public figures too. Can you see it in a nationally televised debate? “In four years under [fart noise] our national debt increased by an unprecedented amount, all while [fart noise] kept complaining about the Democrats running up the debt. I tell you folks, you can’t believe anything [fart noise] says…” And the moderator: “[fart noise] your response? You have 30 seconds.” I guess I never really grew up beyond 4th grade. It beats the hell out of all those silly acronyms and abbreviations that some people use–TFG, PAB and such–that confuse me whenever I see them. A good bloooozer and you’ll know exactly who I’m talking about, right? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690/2 "2023-09-25T21:55:36Z")
> **[trump | Etymology of trump by etymonline](https://www.etymonline.com/word/trump)** > > TRUMP: "playing card of a suit ranking above others," 1520s, alteration of triumph (n.), which also was the… See origin and meaning of trump. > **trump (v.2)** > > “fabricate, devise,” 1690s, from trump “deceive, cheat” (1510s), from Middle English trumpen (late 14c.), from Old French tromper “to deceive,” of uncertain origin. Apparently from se tromper de “to mock,” from Old French tromper “to blow a trumpet.” Brachet explains this as “to play the horn, alluding to quacks and mountebanks, who attracted the public by blowing a horn, and then cheated them into buying …” The Hindley Old French dictionary has baillier la trompe “blow the trumpet” as “act the fool,” and Donkin connects it rather to trombe “waterspout,” on the notion of turning (someone) around. Connection with [triumph](https://www.etymonline.com/word/triumph) also has been proposed. Related: Trumped; trumping. Trumped up “false, concocted” first recorded 1728. > > also from [1690s](https://www.etymonline.com/search?sort=a&q=fr:1690s) The same site has ‘**trump (v.1)** “surpass, beat,” 1580s, from [trump](https://www.etymonline.com/word/trump) (n.).’ > [@slicedalone](#): > > the word “trump” really does mean “fart” at least in the north of England I would assume that the usage comes from ‘trumpet’. (Personally, I often think of ‘trumpet butt’.) > [@slicedalone](#): > > I started wondering why more hasn’t been made of this coincidence. I don’t know how many people know that ‘trump’ has other meanings aside from ‘**trump (n.1)** “playing card of a suit ranking above others,” 1520s, alteration of [triumph](https://www.etymonline.com/word/triumph#etymonline_v_17846) (n.), which also was the name of a card game.’ As the saying goes, ‘If you have to explain a joke…’ Related [emphasis mine]: > **[trumpery | Search Online Etymology Dictionary](https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=trumpery)** > > The online etymology dictionary (etymonline) is the internet's go-to source for quick and reliable accounts of the origin and history of English words, phrases, and idioms. It is professional enough to satisfy academic standards, but accessible... [**trumpery (n.)**](https://www.etymonline.com/word/trumpery#etymonline_v_17894) mid-15c., “deceit, trickery,” from Old French tromperie (14c.), from tromper “to deceive,” of uncertain origin (see [trump](https://www.etymonline.com/word/trump#etymonline_v_17893) (v.2), which has influenced the spelling in English). **Meaning “showy but worthless finery”** is first recorded c. 1600. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690/3 "2023-09-25T23:54:22Z")
I remember someone from the UK mentioning this way back when Trump was first president. It made sense to me that this would be a thing, but it’s not something you hear much – or at all – in the US. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690/4 "2023-09-25T23:59:37Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > it’s not something you hear much ‘Silent, but deadly’? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690/5 "2023-09-26T00:40:08Z")
I with for a multinational, and when Trump was elected, my grand boss lived in the UK. He made sure we all knew that “trump” means “fart” in his dialect. But it’s a kind of dumb way to insult the man. And there are so many substantive reasons to insult him. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690/6 "2023-09-26T00:53:23Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I with for a multinational, I know this is just a mistake - a brain fart, ironically - but it sounds like the best job ever. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690/7 "2023-09-26T00:55:33Z")
Sadly, that wasn’t a brain fart, just a swypo. But yes. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690/8 "2023-09-26T03:01:35Z")
Even if it’s a dumb way to insult him, the concept of a “brain trump” actually seems apropos, considering the word salad he spits out most of the time. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690/9 "2023-09-26T03:21:47Z")
I’m SO glad you posted this! I’ve always thought of farts when hearing his name. (Maybe I’ve read too much Brit Lit?) In 2016, I read an article (CNN?) that said something like “His name even sounds rich.” I thought, “No, it doesn’t. It sounds like a fart…and a rump.” Plus he’s always looked to me like someone inflated with flatus. Maybe instead of blowing raspberries, we should simply say, “Excuse _you_” when someone says his name. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690/10 "2023-09-26T03:24:51Z")
I read the thread title and thought this was going to be another poll. And I was thinking I guess I’d vote for farts and hope for the best. ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690/11 "2023-09-26T21:54:07Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > ‘Silent, but deadly’? SILENT? Deadly, yeah, but babblemouth, will only shut up if the judge orders a gag. Hey, could that be a thing? Dan ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690/12 "2024-01-16T04:04:18Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > [@slicedalone](#): > > > > the word “trump” really does mean “fart” at least in the north of England > > I would assume that the usage comes from ‘trumpet’. (Personally, I often think of ‘trumpet butt’.) Funny you should mention that. A first hand source described Trump’s farts as sounding **“like someone blowing a French horn full of chowder”** > **[Will Americans Vote for a Man Who Is Now Widely Reported to Exude a Rancid Odor?](https://sethabramson.substack.com/p/will-americans-vote-for-a-man-who)** > > The one thing Donald Trump can’t bear people saying of him is something many near him confirm is true—he smells terrible. What will voters do with this intelligence? This report unpacks that question. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690/13 "2024-01-16T08:24:22Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Even if it’s a dumb way to insult him, the concept of a “brain trump” actually seems apropos, considering the word salad he spits out most of the time. I prefer to refer to his inane ramblings as _word dysentery_. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690/14 "2024-01-16T08:45:13Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I prefer to refer to his inane ramblings as _word dysentery_. _Verbal chlamydia_ has a nice ring to it. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690/15 "2024-01-16T08:54:44Z")
Trump suffers from a prolapsed cerebellum. Actually, everyone suffers because of it. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2024, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-farts/990690/16 "2024-02-11T10:35:00Z")
Lightly humerous Youtube about how Trump stinks. Possibly NSFW if you have a really strict policy, but pretty much OK. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/69jbkoY3Dys/maxresdefault.jpg "God Smelled Trump") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69jbkoY3Dys)