# Trump and Harris agree to September 10th ABC debate - Watch Along Starts at Post 431 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, kamala-harris\ **Created:** [August 8, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440 "2024-08-08T20:59:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/361 "2024-09-10T05:35:56Z")
I hope she has a voice somewhere between calm & collected and aggressive & shouty. It so important for her to come across as strong, knowledgeable and as a leader. DJT will be lucky to get 1 of those attributes… ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/362 "2024-09-10T05:44:46Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > I’m hoping that Kamala has a few tricks up her sleeve: a key word or phrase that infuriates trump into going off on an insane rant. That’s been the hope time and time again, and it never happens. Trump is stupid, but also an excellent con-man with a con-man’s instincts. No successful snake-oil salesman who’s been accused of deception and fraud has ever, in the history of snake-oil sales, been goaded into an unplanned rant in front of his marks. > [@Cervaise](#): > > I vote for “same thread,” plus a suggestion to edit the title to say “(watch-along starts in post X)” when the debate actually begins and we know what X is. Now 6-4 in favour of “same thread”. Also, an excellent suggestion about where watch-along starts. Not really necessary, but might be helpful for some. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/363 "2024-09-10T05:45:12Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I think if Trump and Harris had the normal series of three debates, she would be seen have gotten better over time. Given the truncated timeline, three debates is probably not possible. But Harris was open to a possible second debate after seeing how this one goes, and seeing if Trump actually shows up. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/364 "2024-09-10T05:49:59Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > ers to do a good job on the play-by-play, since I won’t be watching it for a number of reasons, not least because I CANNOT listen to or even look at The Donald at this point. But don’t you agree he’s better looking? 🤡 ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/365 "2024-09-10T06:03:28Z")
I’m not sure I can take watching this live. I’m still scarred by the last one. I hope Harris talks to the camera and not to Trump or the moderators. She needs to make her case to the country. She needs to put forth concrete policies and plans that the audience can understand, such as child tax credit, start-up loans for small businesses etc. The viewers need to feel that she is talking to them and directly offering solutions rather than just rhetoric. If Trump goes on a tangent about child care costs, for example, she should just say something like “The problem with that suggestion is that it doesn’t actually address child care costs. Here is what my administration would do to help with these costs”. Under no circumstances should she say that Trump’s ramblings are confusing or won’t be effective. That leads her open to criticism that she is just not smart enough to understand his brilliant ideas. At most, she could point out that he didn’t actually address the question then immediately pivot to “Here is what we plan to do to fix this situation.” ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/366 "2024-09-10T07:00:27Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > I vote for “same thread,” plus a suggestion to edit the title to say “(watch-along starts in post X)” when the debate actually begins and we know what X is. My vote has already been counted for “same thread,” but I like the idea of adjusting the thread title to, “Trump and Harris agree to September ABC debate (Watch-along discussion starts at post X).” I’m sure that @Aspenglow can arrange that. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/367 "2024-09-10T07:21:51Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > I hope Harris talks to the camera and not to Trump or the moderators. She needs to make her case to the country. Bingo. That’s it right there. She needs to talk to the camera. As some here know, I do some voicework occasionally. On one of my “refresher” courses, the instructor insisted we do video as well. (And me, with my perfect face for radio!) Okay, fine, we did. And what I learned! Watch a sports game broadcast sometime. Bud and Dan (fictional names) are talking about the game at halftime. Bud asks Dan a question. Dan starts his answer looking at Bud, but then turns towards the camera, “making the viewer part of the conversation,” as my instructor said. Dan finishes with a question or comment that Bud must respond to, and Bud starts his response by looking at Dan, before turning to the camera, and again, making the viewer part of the conversation. It’s uncanny; for all that I watch sports, I never noticed it until I was made aware of it in that refresher class. And that’s what Harris has to do: make the viewer part of the conversation. Oh, start by speaking to the moderators, sure (“Well, Mr. Muir, I’m glad you asked that question, because …”), but above all, then turn from them in order to speak to the cameras. And by extension, the American people. Let Trump talk to a nonexistent audience to his left, and then the nonexistent audience off to his right, as he loves to do, and let Harris address the American people, right into the camera. That’s going to get a message across. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/368 "2024-09-10T07:57:36Z")
If there’s no use for a new debate thread, fine. But if one dippydope writes, “See my post at #214”, they are drawn and quartered. New debate thread please. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/369 "2024-09-10T16:08:58Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > I vote for “same thread,” plus a suggestion to edit the title to say “(watch-along starts in post X)” when the debate actually begins and we know what X is. Seconded. (Fourthed?) [ETA: that should also clarify that this is the watch-along thread, reducing the chances that people will try to start six more of them, or have to check all the Harris threads looking for it.] – I’m kind of dubious about the figures in the story I’m citing below. 70% of the USA is going to watch the debate?! There’s going to be 82% turnout for the election?? > **[NPR poll shows why the stakes are so high for Harris and Trump in the debate](https://www.npr.org/2024/09/10/nx-s1-5106660/election-poll-harris-trump-debate)** > > A lot of people say they'll tune in Tuesday night to the first presidential debate between former President Donald Trump and Vice President Harris, according to an NPR/PBS News/Marist poll. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/370 "2024-09-10T16:10:26Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I know, learning from mistakes is not one of his strengths. But experience is a plus. I think if Trump and Harris had the normal series of three debates, she would be seen have gotten better over time. Good point, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/371 "2024-09-10T16:14:46Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > There’s going to be 82% turnout for the election?? Of poll respondents claim it. Assuming that holds up, it means respondents aren’t representative of the general public, which is almost a given at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/372 "2024-09-10T16:18:55Z")
What with Trump declaring that he will use the full force of the government to go after those that opposed him in this election, there is a lot more at stake for Kamala Harris And this debate. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/373 "2024-09-10T16:19:31Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Assuming that holds up, it means respondents aren’t representative of the general public Yeah, that’s the likeliest assumption I can come up with. That would be an astonishing turnout for the USA – 2020 was considered surprisingly high at 66%. Alternatively, some of the people who said they were going to vote were just embarrassed to tell the polltaker that they probably won’t. People lie to pollsters! who’d a thunk it? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/374 "2024-09-10T16:19:58Z")
I’ve got pork in the crockpot for pulled pork sandwiches for the debate. I’m also making a pasta salad. For those without television, will there be a streaming online source? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/375 "2024-09-10T16:37:22Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Alternatively, some of the people who said they were going to vote were just embarrassed to tell the polltaker that they probably won’t. People lie to pollsters! who’d a thunk it? They can mean it at the moment and not follow through. People tend to answer questions about the future aspirationally. Either way, taking the article’s conclusions completely literally isn’t a great idea. The numbers don’t remotely pass the sniff test. But as a feeler for general trends and voter concerns, there’s still valuable data to potentially be gleaned. > [@kayaker](#): > > For those without television, will there be a streaming online source? Pretty much everybody. ABC as the host (plus Disney+ and Hulu), CBS, NBC, several local news stations, YouTube, plus no doubt others, will all have streaming options. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/376 "2024-09-10T17:51:06Z")
I have Direct TV but they are fussing with ABC and Disney so I guess I can’t watch it there. I’m not sure I can stand to watch it anyway. Just seeing and hearing trump hurts my brain. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/377 "2024-09-10T17:56:38Z")
Moderating: After discussion with all P&E mods, we unanimously decided we will continue this thread for the watch along. @Cervaise’s suggestion to add a post number to the thread title for ease of finding where the discussion starts is a great one, and I’ll make sure to do that when we get underway. Thanks for expressing your preferences. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/378 "2024-09-10T18:15:21Z")
It’d be awesome if Kamala wore a shark pin or maybe a battery one. Or both. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/379 "2024-09-10T18:17:24Z")
I’m pretty sure MSNBC said the will be doing a simulcast so you could watch it there. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/380 "2024-09-10T18:17:26Z")
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