# Trump and Harris agree to September 10th ABC debate - Watch Along Starts at Post 431 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, kamala-harris\ **Created:** [August 8, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440 "2024-08-08T20:59:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 62
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1221 "2024-09-11T05:02:21Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Those were not his allotted time slots. And? If the point is “air time” they had the split screen. She was on screen about the same amount of time. The difference was mainly in speaking time, which did him no favors. It allowed her to give some great non-verbal responses while he was speaking. I’m pretty sure the Harris team planned for him to use more speaking time, didn’t think that was a bad thing, and used that to their advantage by showing her engaged, thinking, and paying attention while he was droning on. By contrast, he looked like he’d rather be anywhere else while she was speaking. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1222 "2024-09-11T05:19:50Z")
My sister called after the debate to give me her summary. I said I had a lot better time and lower blood pressure from reading the comments here. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1223 "2024-09-11T05:21:40Z")
I may try to do that. The sound of his voice makes me cringe. It’s like he swallowed Shirley Temple. ETA: Maybe I could just watch with the volume off. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1224 "2024-09-11T05:24:30Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > The difference was mainly in speaking time, which did him no favors. To his followers, it was 5+ extra minutes of national election rally. And none of those minutes were able to be rebutted. He got the last word in, almost every time. Maybe it didn’t hurt her any, but that’s no way to run a debate, caving in to him and letting him steal extra time. Just another instance of him getting away with whatever he wants. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1225 "2024-09-11T05:37:28Z")
Did you hear those poll numbers he quoted. Pulled right out of his butt. ---
**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1226 "2024-09-11T05:39:43Z")
Catching up on “Hannity” from earlier tonight and he’s interviewing the America-hating fkstick following the debate, and it’s the usual slurpfest while he’s back to playing his air accordion. I’m cracking up at their narrative that “she’s immediately calling for another debate because she knows she lost… I’ll have to think about it but why should I debate her again since I clearly won?”. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1227 "2024-09-11T05:42:02Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > He got the last word in, almost every time. Maybe it didn’t hurt her any, but that’s no way to run a debate, caving in to him and letting him steal extra time. Just another instance of him getting away with whatever he wants. And that point was not lost on the viewers. He’s a spoiled brat, always getting what he wants. Many of us do not see that as a sign of a good leader. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1228 "2024-09-11T05:59:23Z")
> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#): > > I’m cracking up at their narrative that “she’s immediately calling for another debate because she knows she lost… I’ll have to think about it but why should I debate her again since I clearly won?”. You have to love the analysis from Bizarro World. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1229 "2024-09-11T06:08:09Z")
“Illegal Haitians are eating peoples’ pets in Ohio! They’re going to perform transgender surgery on prison inmates! Harris lost the debate and wants another!” Bizarro World indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1230 "2024-09-11T06:08:26Z")
Wait, there is a VP debate on Oct 1? Shit, I can’t wait! ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1231 "2024-09-11T06:17:04Z")
Jon Stewart had a great [response](https://deadline.com/2024/09/the-daily-show-jon-stewart-presidential-debate-1236084473/) to the debate, and he _eviscerated_ Trump over his “January 6” response: > [@](#): > > “You spent two months riling up your base that our country had literally been stolen from them through fraudulent means, that you could never even get a whiff of in a court of law and let yourself just abuse them,” he said. “You pressed on. You abused their trust. You showed up for a speech? You f\*cking tweeted, ‘Join me on January 6, it will be wild.'” > > “People are awfully set in the manner that they view these proceedings,” he said. “What I think is a home-run answer for one candidate, someone else views as a dodge or a lie or any of those other things. In some ways, it doesn’t matter what they say anymore, but one thing will always be true, and it is the quality of the former president I respect the least. Whenever he is cornered and forced to face even the smallest of consequences for his own mendacity and scheming, he reverts to the greatest refuge of scoundrels. As Shaggy would say: ‘It wasn’t me. I do nothing wrong. I just showed up. They’re the ones who went crazy.’ This man who constantly professes to be your champion, who says they’re going to have to go through him to get to you, will always, when the boat is going down, will be the first into the lifeboats. Because in that moment, he will always say the same thing, ‘I didn’t know anything about it — I was just told to show up for a cruise,’ even though everybody knows he was the f\*cking captain of the ship. > > “In any other country, that lack of accountability would be disqualifying, but in this country, it means the race is tighter than…,” he concluded. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1232 "2024-09-11T06:20:52Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Well, I guess he hasn’t checked that Taylor Swift poll, which currently shows 3.496 million likes. This is the internet; some of those are probably for the cat. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1233 "2024-09-11T06:36:25Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > I’m pretty sure the Harris team planned for him to use more speaking time, didn’t think that was a bad thing, and used that to their advantage by showing her engaged, thinking, and paying attention while he was droning on. By contrast, he looked like he’d rather be anywhere else while she was speaking. Listened to most of it on the radio and wasn’t always sure when Trump was speaking out of turn. Sounds like quite a bit. But I remember thinking the same thing, after the Harris camp couldn’t get the mics turned back on they may have pivoted and decided to give him extra minutes, knowing he couldn’t resist taking them, just to see how ranty and unhinged he could get. I would call that a success. > [@Spoons](#): > > Illegal Haitians are eating peoples’ pets in Ohio! This was a new one to me. I’ve mostly been able to miss hearing about this? A little bit of googling… This came from JD didn’t it? Why am I not surprised? I said to myself, “is he seriously talking about people eating pets? Cats and dogs? Really?” Again having listened to it on the radio, Trump came off as ranty and unhinged, and Harris sounded confident, calm, and in control of the situation. Like a president. The abortion answer was a master stroke. And she pushed every single one of his buttons, mostly to good effect. If I am on Trump’s debate team, I am considering a new line of work if another debate happens. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1234 "2024-09-11T06:56:24Z")
Just a few more comments: The handshake was the first time Trump’s hands didn’t look tiny. Harris has really really small hands. I am not sure this was the best time for a Taylor Swift endorsement. Harris will already get positive press from this debate. It would be good to have another positive boost in a week or so. Also as a Swift fan ( not obsessed enough to be a true Swifty) I feel bad for Meredith and Olivia. Benjamin got the cover of Time and now this. Justice for the other cats! (But seriously if you want to really fall for Swift watch the behind the scenes The Tale of Benjamin Button which shows how she adopted him). Finally, my favorite comment on the debate: > ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1235 "2024-09-11T07:01:02Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > I said to myself, “is he seriously talking about people eating pets? Cats and dogs? Really?” We mere mortals are speaking simply and playing tic tac toe while he is doing the weave and playing 3D chess. Vance’s ill judged remarks were in danger of causing Trump to lose the childless cat lady vote. Now he is cleverly winning them back by reflecting their fear that their cats may be eaten by immigrants. It’s genius I tell you. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1236 "2024-09-11T07:05:14Z")
> [@Superdude quoting Jon Stewart](#): > > “In any other country, that lack of accountability would be disqualifying, but in this country, it means the race is tighter than…,” he concluded. Which then cut to a clip from _Monty Python’s The Meaning of Life_ of Mr. Creosote projectile-vomiting into a bucket. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1237 "2024-09-11T07:21:12Z")
Cue the pathetic whining of “no fair, No Faaaair!” From the sad man-baby and his gaggle of sycophants. ( looking at you, Fox “news “) ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1238 "2024-09-11T07:44:56Z")
I don’t know if the debate is going to bring in any votes but, it was very cathartic to watch. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1239 "2024-09-11T08:11:32Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > This is the internet; some of those are probably for the cat. The cat is also endorsing Harris. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1240 "2024-09-11T08:15:53Z")
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