# Trump and Harris agree to September 10th ABC debate - Watch Along Starts at Post 431

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump, kamala-harris\
**Created:** [August 8, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440 "2024-08-08T20:59:15Z")\
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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> She should have come back with something along the lines of “It’s curious to me why all of these leaders who are supposedly afraid of you are working so very hard to get you back into the White House.”

She did say they would walk all over him because he’s so weak.

> Putin would be sitting in Kyiv with his eyes on the rest of Europe. Starting with Poland. And why don’t you tell the 800,000 Polish Americans right here in Pennsylvania how quickly you would give up for the sake of favor and what you think is a friendship with what is known to be a dictator who would eat you for lunch.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1302 "2024-09-11T15:19:27Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> > [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> > Nobody ever called him on the crime rate.
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> I believe at one point Muir responded with FBI data about declining crime rates.

I think you’re right; I had forgotten that.

(posting this without having caught up on all the intervening couple of hundred posts. I probably will read them, but not all at once.)

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1303 "2024-09-11T15:28:28Z")

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From a Pit thread, a few days ago. As it turned out, no need to fear the pet-eating being mentioned…

> [@Filmore is pitted](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/filmore-is-pitted/1007042/25):
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> (Though they are currently arguing that Haitians are killing people’s pet cats and ducks. And Trump and Republican congresspeople are going along with it. I’m more concerned _that_ will come in the debate, myself.)

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1304 "2024-09-11T15:34:03Z")

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One moment I haven’t seen rehashed too much in this thread (at least post-debate) is when you KNOW she wanted to say “and THIS motherf-r” but at the last possible nanosecond she managed to bite her tongue.

> **[People Are Convinced Kamala Harris Was About To Drop An F-Bomb On Donald...](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/people-convinced-kamala-harris-almost-121450412.html)**
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> I swear it was on the tip of her tongue.

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Kamala should order her President Harris stationary.

My gf watched [PBS.com](http://PBS.com) on her laptop. I watched CNN on my iPad. We both had earbuds in but were able to hear each other laugh out loud occasionally.

Boy did that feel good.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1306 "2024-09-11T15:38:05Z")

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> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#):
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> One moment I haven’t seen rehashed too much in this thread (at least post-debate) is when you KNOW she wanted to say “and THIS motherf-r” but at the last possible nanosecond she managed to bite her tongue

I think that was entirely planned. They knew how popular Biden’s “Would you just shut up, man?” was in 2020, and Obama’s “Ooops, what are my hands doing?” look when he was talking about crowd sizes during the DNC convention were. She was the stand-in for everyone who has ever wanted to call him a fucker to his face. And her delivery was perfect.

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Kamala should order her President Harris stationary.

Don’t get carried away, between her winning the debate easily and the Taylor Swift endorsement, she will hopefully have moved the key states like the Keystone State the few percentage points she needs. But this election will still be close.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1308 "2024-09-11T15:40:00Z")

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Its Hunter Biden stuff that was included in a Republican Senate Report, but is in reality just a bunch of smoke and mirrors.

Here is a gift link to a [Washington Post article](https://wapo.st/47j6JMN) about it if you really want to drill down. Even after reading the article I’m not sure what it really was based on.

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> I think that was entirely planned.

It’s possible. But if so, she’s a really good actor. Her face really expressed some struggle to find the right word.

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**Moderating** : Just to cut this off early, any detail discussion of Hunter will have to go to a new thread or a Hunter Biden thread if we still have one.

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Well, that’s what the debate prep was for! 😃

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> She should have come back with something along the lines of “It’s curious to me why all of these leaders who are supposedly afraid of you are working so very hard to get you back into the White House.”

Putin gave some troll endorsement of Harris the other week so I’m sure that, if she said that, it would have just resulted in Trump talking about how Putin actually loves Harris and fears Trump.

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> between her winning the debate easily and the Taylor Swift endorsement, she will hopefully have moved the key states like the Keystone State the few percentage points she needs. But this election will still be close.

I’m also counting on Trump’s response to last night causing his campaign further damage, leading to a snowball effect.

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> [@Filmore is pitted](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/filmore-is-pitted/1007042/25):
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> From a Pit thread, a few days ago. As it turned out, no need to fear the pet-eating being mentioned…
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> > [@Filmore is pitted](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/filmore-is-pitted/1007042/25):
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> > (Though they are currently arguing that Haitians are killing people’s pet cats and ducks. And Trump and Republican congresspeople are going along with it. I’m more concerned _that_ will come in the debate, myself.) ⁢

And I’m very glad about that.

Though I note “more concerned” was a relative measure. I was comparing it to another talking point. (See the rest of my post for details, as I don’t want to risk hijacking this thread.)

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Putin gave some troll endorsement of Harris the other week so I’m sure that, if she said that, it would have just resulted in Trump talking about how Putin actually loves Harris and fears Trump.

At some point he said something like, “Putin said he wants her to be president, and I believe him.” I was wondering if Harris would follow up with something like, “That’s not the first time you fell for a dictator’s lies, and that’s part of the reason why you’re unfit to be president.” But it was probably better that she let it go.

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I’m also counting on Trump’s response to last night causing his campaign further damage, leading to a snowball effect.

Well, if his comments last night were to be believed, Milwaukee is a burning crater, so no need for him to campaign over there, right?

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Don’t get carried away, between her winning the debate easily and the Taylor Swift endorsement, she will hopefully have moved the key states like the Keystone State the few percentage points she needs. But this election will still be close.

The biggest post-debate polling bump in the last four presidential cycles was for Mitt Romney after the first debate in 2012, which saw him make up an average of 4.6 percentage points against Obama in national polls. Didn’t last.

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I just talked to two people about this.  
My Condo Association Manager did not watch.  
The Association President watched, and _“is sorry that neither Party had a good candidate”_, although he concedes that Harris did better than Trump.  
Posted from Tennessee.

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Putin gave some troll endorsement of Harris the other week so I’m sure that, if she said that, it would have just resulted in Trump talking about how Putin actually loves Harris and fears Trump

She should have used that to point out how easily Trump is manipulated. She mentioned that in passing, but here we saw it in action on live TV. “Everybody knew that Putin’s endorsement was a sham, intended to sway stupid people. Everybody but _you_, that is. This is how easy you are to manipulate. Putin pulled your strings using one sentence spoken on the other side of the planet, and here you are dancing for him on live TV.”

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> I just talked to two people about this.

I’m at work. I just yawned and the woman I was talking to asked if I was getting enough sleep. I told her I was up late watching the debate and the aftermath.

She must be a MAGat, as her response was, “oh”.

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