# Trump and Harris agree to September 10th ABC debate - Watch Along Starts at Post 431

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**Created:** [August 8, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440 "2024-08-08T20:59:15Z")\
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Or Trump-Biden, maybe the only debate to convince a sitting President to drop out of a race.

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I’d rank the debate immediately preceding this one as being quite “important in history” as well.

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Now that is a simul-post.

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You’re both correct. Guess I erased that one from my memory.

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> People seem to like the glower. Larry David even adopted it for season 12 of Curb.

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> they interpret arrogance, bigotry, cruelty, greed and a massive sense of entitlement as “strength”.

He looks like a dominant gorilla spoiling for a fight.

And, I suspect, is appealing to the same primate back-of-the-head response. That’s really the only sense I can make out of it.

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> [@LoneRhino](#):
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> When I heard him say this all I could think was that this idiot doesn’t even understand his own analogy. The debate is just one round in the fight. The fight ends on election day.

And he’s spent every day since losing the last election demanding one type of rematch or another.

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> [@BigT](#):
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> He did _eventually_ say it didn’t include the Nazis, and that’s their proof that the media has been lying.

I have no time for that so-called “clarification,” nor should anyone else. Firstly, because of the 95% likelihood that he was lying when he said it, and secondly, because marching alongside Nazis automatically disqualifies one from being a “very fine [person].” That’s axiomatic.

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Considering his propensity for shouting Putin’s propaganda, I’d say he has a “bellow-Russian” accent

I think you can be legally shot for this in like, 13 States.

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> **hidden by What Exit?**
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> > [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> > I have no time for that so-called “clarification,” nor should anyone else.
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> I think some here are conflating accuracy, with legitimizing what Trump said, or seriously suggesting he’s not a racist.
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> On the MAGA forums, this “very fine people” is one of the first talking points I’ve encountered with any nuance at all.  
> Why would we insist on using this particular quote of Trump’s, when there are hundreds of others where we don’t need to get into the weeds of later clarifications in the same press conference?  
> This isn’t the same thing as saying Trump didn’t initially intend “very fine people” to include the nazis, nor that he didn’t encourage the nazis in the first place. There’s lots to criticize there but leaning into “very fine people” is not the way.

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I think Tuesday’s debate will go down in history as an important moment. Similar to Lincoln-Douglas…

I would note for the record that Lincoln _ **Lost** _ that election to Douglas…make of that what you will…

Press on.

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> > [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> > Hillary Clinton must be worn out from laughing.
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> I thought of that, too. Heard that Hillary Clinton frequently offered assistance to Harris for debate prep. Looks like it paid off

I hate to play the “cite” card on one of our favorite internet Moderators on the planet 🙂 but I started wondering about this, whether or not there was any “hey, gal to gal, is there anything you would’ve done differently against him in 2016 that I can glean from you for Tuesday night” conversations between Hillary and VP Harris.

I did find this source, but this sounds more like a “Hillary told the NY Times the advice that she ‘would give’ VP Harris” so I don’t exactly think of this as apples-to-apples.

> **[Hillary Clinton gives Kamala Harris advice for her big showdown with Trump](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-gives-kamala-harris-213218477.html)**
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> ‘She should bait him. He can be rattled,’ former secretary of state suggested

Do we know if the two of them have been in close one-on-one direct communication lately?

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> It’s still cheating though to consider such questions in advance, and come up with a researched and thoughtful answer that will solve or reduce the problems.

Considering that politicians never directly answer the questions in a debate, I’m not sure what benefit there would be to have them in advance, anyway.

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LOL, very fair to ask for a cite. 🙂

All I can tell you is MSNBC reported out clips of Hillary Clinton saying that Harris reached out to her and sought her help and advice. Both the Clinton and Harris camps have indicated that they have remained in close contact throughout the period in the run-up to the debate.

If I find anything in writing with more specificity, I will share it.

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Well, since his followers are all whiny, crying titty-babies, LIKE=LIKE.

Correct.

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Trump is already waffling on his “NO MORE DEBATES!” proclamation.

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1834685147700249085>

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For what it’s worth, I’ve heard those same reports, but from different sources.

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> A small side-question since I didn’t watch the debate or have listened to him very much-does Trump have any kind of New York accent?

He has an accent. I saw it referred to as a Queens accent today in Jeff Tiedrich’s substack.

> and from that point on, it was _game fucking over_ for Donny. he completely lost his shit, and, in that thick Queens NY accent of his,…

> **[elderly golfer holds another sad rally in a tiny little venue](https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/elderly-golfer-holds-another-sad)**
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> the crowds may be small — but the hate-mongering is still turned up to 11

I personally wouldn’t call it strong, though.

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