# Trump and Harris agree to September 10th ABC debate - Watch Along Starts at Post 431 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, kamala-harris\ **Created:** [August 8, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440 "2024-08-08T20:59:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 84
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1661 "2024-09-14T07:49:51Z")
With respect to the earrings theory, I remember some members of this Board going crazy over the suggestion that Dubya was being prompted in one of his debates with Gore, based on wrinkles in the back of Dubya’s suit jacket. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1662 "2024-09-14T08:09:36Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > With respect to the earrings theory, I remember some members of this Board going crazy over the suggestion that Dubya was being prompted in one of his debates with Gore, based on wrinkles in the back of Dubya’s suit jacket.   That’s not quite accurate. I don’t think anyone (at least in the mainstream media) was saying that the only reason Dubya did so well was because he was being fed the answers, because he didn’t actually do particularly well. The speculation was all about what that rectangular object was behind his suit jacket, and whether it might have been some sort of communication device. We still don’t know, but I’d be willing to bet that it was just an odd effect of lighting and wrinkles. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1663 "2024-09-14T08:11:41Z")
I wasn’t speaking about MSM, I was speaking about posters on these boards. There was a lot of speculation that he was being fed answers. Just saying that it’s not just Trumpers who may go down that rabbit hole. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1664 "2024-09-14T08:33:30Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > anybody with a brain wold have known what general questions would be asked So you admit that Harris _did_ have an advantage over Trump! ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1665 "2024-09-14T08:40:10Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > He referred to Harris as “ka Ma la”, emphasis on second syllable, several times. Martha made some subtle callout with her response saying something about seeing how Trump pronounces it. I thought that was wholly inadequate. …but did you notice that, right after that, he started pronouncing it correctly? She subtly shamed him into being slightly less awful. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1666 "2024-09-14T08:58:44Z")
Sure, but he also wasn’t being fed his usual feed of, “You’re so wonderful, Mr. Trump, you’re so awesome, you can insult her all you like, and nothing will happen” crapola that he so often gets from his handlers, advisors, and fans. With no handlers or advisors or fans in the studio, he realized this was serious and somehow, figured out that if he was to have any traction at all, he’d better start referring to her by her proper name, with the correct pronunciation. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1667 "2024-09-14T09:03:24Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Mr. Trump… > > With no handlers or advisors or fans in the studio, he realized this was serious and somehow, figured out that if he was to have any traction at all, he’d better start referring to her by her proper name, with the correct pronunciation. Except we were talking about former RNC Chair Reince Priebus. He went with the mispronunciation (probably to suck up to Trump), but was shamed in real time to quit that foolishness. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1668 "2024-09-14T12:38:46Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > So you admit that Harris _did_ have an advantage over Trump! ISWYDT ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1669 "2024-09-14T13:56:39Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > The speculation was all about what that rectangular object was behind his suit jacket I guessed it was a battery pack. Feeding not information to his brain, but simply voltage to keep it running. ---
**Author:** ![Steven\_Maven](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steven_maven/32/3272_2.png) [@Steven\_Maven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steven_Maven)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1670 "2024-09-14T13:59:49Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > “I didn’t do it. But if I did then it wasn’t illegal. But if it’s illegal, then I was just doing what they told me to do.” I didn’t break your lawn mower. It was broken when I borrowed it. It was in perfect condition when I returned it. I never borrowed it in the first place.” ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1671 "2024-09-14T14:04:25Z")
“What’s a lawnmower? Never heard of it.” ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1672 "2024-09-14T14:05:05Z")
In legal terms, it’s called pleading in the alternative. It may work in civil cases, but I’ve heard from criminal lawyers that it doesn’t work in criminal cases, at least not in front of a jury; defence should pick one general defence theme and stick to that. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1673 "2024-09-14T14:07:18Z")
> [@Steven\_Maven](#): > > I didn’t break your lawn mower. It was broken when I borrowed it. It was in perfect condition when I returned it. I never borrowed it in the first place.” > [@susan](#): > > “What’s a lawnmower? Never heard of it.” > [@Trump and Harris agree to September 10th ABC debate - Watch Along Starts at Post 431](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1617): > > I think this has gone off-topic enough at this point. Enough with the silly excuses. Moderating **Moderating Again** ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1674 "2024-09-14T14:50:56Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > …but did you notice that, right after that, he started pronouncing it correctly? She subtly shamed him into being slightly less awful. No, because I didn’t watch all this live, I watched it later on DVR, so I didn’t see any further discussion with him. That particular segment ended with her remark and cut away. So if it worked, I’m happier. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1675 "2024-09-14T14:57:13Z")
I just posted what I uncovered about the source of the “Haitians eating pets” lie in the Is Trump Confused? thread. I don’t want to crosspost too much, so I’ll just drop this link to a Guardian article I found. > **[Haitian immigrants helped revive a struggling Ohio town. Then neo-Nazis...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/14/neo-nazis-springfield-ohio-haitian-immigrants)** > > Springfield’s immigrant community was targeted by far-right extremists months before Trump shared racist rumors Basically, it involves a parody news site story that distorted an actual incident of animal cruelty by a non-Haitian Black woman (in Canton, not Springfield), then getting picked up by a neo-NAZI group, and circulated in right wing circles. ---
**Author:** ![sweepkick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweepkick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweepkick)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1676 "2024-09-14T16:19:20Z")
Heard on NPR “Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me” today: “They’re eating the dogs”. “The first racist dog whistle that actually involves dogs”. /dead ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1677 "2024-09-14T16:26:08Z")
Well, at least they’re showing some concern for pets now after the earlier “cat lady” comments. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1678 "2024-09-14T16:29:07Z")
> **[Putin Upset to See Someone Else Controlling Trump](https://www.borowitzreport.com/p/putin-upset-to-see-someone-else-controlling)** > > “For years, President Putin has taken great pride in his ability to manipulate Trump like a silly marionette,” a Kremlin source said. > ”It was hard to watch,” Putin reportedly said. “But she was right about me eating him for lunch. That was a good one.” 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1679 "2024-09-14T16:39:38Z")
WRT foreign policy, the talking points don’t even make coherent sense. World leaders feared trump, but also they are his friends but also they want Kamala to win. And Kamala won’t have what it takes to stand up to world leaders and do the things that need to be done…which, according to republicans is pretty much _nothing_, as they want a hands off approach for Ukraine, gaza and sure as hell over things like climate change. Yeah we really need a strongman to…fck around a golf course doing nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1680 "2024-09-14T16:49:01Z")
I disagree. I think it is true, even clear. > [@Mijin](#): > > World leaders feared trump, but also they are his friends but also they want Kamala to win. There are many world leaders. Wise Western ones feared the gutting of international institutions and trade agreements depending on the daily mood of one individual. Wiser ones prefer less volatile and mercurial governments. And favour and flattery would seem a reasonable strategy for dealing with Trump even if it may be misinterpreted as other F words, like friendship. Unless you are talking about very specific leader. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440.md?page=83) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440.md?page=85)