# Trump and Harris agree to September 10th ABC debate - Watch Along Starts at Post 431 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, kamala-harris\ **Created:** [August 8, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440 "2024-08-08T20:59:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 90
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1781 "2024-09-27T22:01:39Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Forgot the “Sir.” 😀 And the fact that it was big, tough guy with tears in his eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1782 "2024-09-27T22:29:59Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Forgot the “Sir.” So did Lisa. > [@Zakalwe](#): > > And the fact that it was big, tough guy with tears in his eyes. No, but there was something fishy about it. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1783 "2024-09-27T22:49:20Z")
So it’s too late for a debate, but not too late for nearly coinciding town halls… ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1784 "2024-09-28T12:34:49Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > I hope it goes as well for him as the meeting with the National Association of Black Journalists Oh, great, more Black Jobs being stolen! ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1785 "2024-09-28T21:23:54Z")
I wonder if you would get tossed out of the ‘Town Hall’ for riotous laughter at nonsense answers? > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > No, but there was something fishy about it. Excuse Me? ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1786 "2024-09-28T21:51:38Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > hope it goes as well for him as the meeting with the National Association of Black Journalists. Although we Dopers love to talk about Trump’s trainwreck at the meeting with the Black Journalists, is there any real evidence that Trump actually lost voters because of it? Did it move the needle? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1787 "2024-09-28T22:15:04Z")
If not, is there literally any point to discussing or reacting to anything Trump says or does? ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1788 "2024-09-28T22:15:45Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > Although we Dopers love to talk about Trump’s trainwreck at the meeting with the Black Journalists, is there any real evidence that Trump actually lost voters because of it? > Did it move the needle? Does it matter? Did he make an impressive showing to you? Or anyone you know? It’s not about whether it “moves the needle;” it’s about does he come across as a total idiot. Between commenting on Harris’s “blackness” or Haitians eating the pets in Springfield, Trump has demonstrated that his elevator doesn’t go quite to the top. That’s all the evidence most people are going to need. Well, about half anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1789 "2024-09-28T22:21:24Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Does it matter? Well, yeah - it does matter in a way. Isn’t the whole issue who will win the election? And aren’t most of us trying to figure out why it is so close? How can so many folk have such favorable opinions of Trump and unfavorable impressions of Harris - seemingly contrary to SO MUCH consistently ongoing evidence? Apparently it is going to turn on turnout and undecideds - and I haven’t heard any definitive explanation on what actions, or what expenditures of case where will affect those 2 factors. Instead, we’re wondering, “Gee, will a hurricane have an effect?” Why does it matter if Trump goes to a specific group and insults them to their faces - if it doesn’t move the needle? And why does it matter if Harris gives more interviews, or states her policies more clearly, if the undecideds will continue to say “It isn’t enough!” and the Trumpers either don’t see it or handwave it away? ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1790 "2024-09-28T22:25:00Z")
Maybe it’s because Trump is better-looking (if you ask him). Don’t let anyone tell you looks don’t count. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1791 "2024-09-28T23:04:43Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > Although we Dopers love to talk about Trump’s trainwreck at the meeting with the Black Journalists, is there any real evidence that Trump actually lost voters because of it? Did he gain any? Because that was the point. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1792 "2024-09-28T23:19:11Z")
Never mind ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1793 "2024-09-29T00:08:19Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > Did it move the needle? It is hard to know isn’t it? He _had_ been making inroads relative to Biden with Black voters especially with some Black male voters. Now apparently that [has evaporated](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/09/09/harris-trump-biden-black-americans/). Is that a result of his performance there and then? His questioning Harris’s racial identity? Her strengths? It certainly did not help him but isolating what factor did what is very tricky. He definitely had an opportunity to build on some movement that he squandered. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1794 "2024-09-29T00:30:12Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Excuse Me? My quote was from an early episode of _The Simpsons_. Mr. Burns is running for governor in order to thwart environmental regulation of his power plant. To court publicity, he has dinner with an average family (the Simpsons, natch) and plants a question Lisa to ask, much to her disgust. It all comes to an end when Marge serves a three-eyed fish caught outside of the nuclear plant. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1795 "2024-09-29T00:50:24Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > He definitely had an opportunity to build on some movement that he squandered. Squandering opportunities is what he’s best at. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1796 "2024-09-29T01:09:23Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > Although we Dopers love to talk about Trump’s trainwreck at the meeting with the Black Journalists, is there any real evidence that Trump actually lost voters because of it? > Did it move the needle? How would we know? Let us say it changed the minds of a million black voters over several/many states. Even two million. 5% of Black voters. How would that show up in a poll of 1000 random people who actually answered their phone?S ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1797 "2024-10-06T01:05:04Z")
I have a question- when trump asks- well why havent you got all those plans done in the last 4 years, why not just say “well, we had a badly divided congress, which was unable to do much of anything. But trump, you had 4 years and a complaint congress, why didnt you fix healthcare, etc?” ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1798 "2024-10-06T01:19:56Z")
Pointing out how he was unable to destroy the ACA (but did accomplish other harms) comes at the cost of admitting the reality that since she will likely be continuing to deal with a divided Congress she will be unable to actually deliver the changes she promises. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1799 "2024-10-06T01:22:55Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > when trump asks- well why havent you got all those plans done in the last 4 years, why not just say “well, we had a badly divided congress, which was unable to do much of anything. But trump, you had 4 years and a complaint congress, why didnt you fix healthcare, etc?” Because neither of those things are true - Democrats held the House from 2019 to 2022, and have held the Senate since 2021. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1800 "2024-10-06T01:54:38Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Because neither of those things are true - Democrats held the House from 2019 to 2022 trump was president from 2017 thru 2020. He had half his term. [114th United States Congress - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/114th_United_States_Congress#:~:text=November%208%2C%202016%3A%20Donald%20Trump,Senate%20and%20House%20of%20Representatives). - _November 8, 2016: [Donald Trump](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump) and [Mike Pence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pence) elected as president and vice-president in [presidential elections](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election), while the Republicans retain majority at both [Senate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2016) and [House of Representatives](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2016)._ _The [2014 elections](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_United_States_elections) gave the Republicans control of the Senate and the House for the first time since the [109th Congress](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/109th_United_States_Congress). With 248 seats in the [House of Representatives](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives) and 54 seats in the [Senate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate), this Congress began with the largest [Republican](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)) majority since the [71st Congress](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/71st_United_States_Congress) of 1929–1931._ [115th United States Congress - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/115th_United_States_Congress) Okay for two years. And 4 years of the Senate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440.md?page=89) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440.md?page=91)