# Trump and his "Cat License"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 5, 2019, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713 "2019-09-05T00:17:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/21 "2019-09-05T10:47:12Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> …he projected a little further into Alabama.

He was unqualified to do so.

> [@Magiver](#):
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> The entire point of warning people about a hurricane is so they can prepare. It would be negligent to do otherwise.

It is also negligent to warn people about disasters that do not have a reasonable likelihood of occurring; it makes them spend precious resources and take unnecessary risks.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/22 "2019-09-05T11:36:14Z")

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Forget it, Jake. It’s Magivertown.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/23 "2019-09-05T11:46:17Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It’s four dimensional chess. This week, Trump is telling people that Alabama is going to be struck by a hurricane. Next week, he’ll be taking credit for preventing it from happening.

“The failing Hurricane Dorian, which the Fake (or bad!) News claimed was the biggest ever, barely made an impact on “Alabama” after I lead the response. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT TRUMP!”

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/24 "2019-09-05T12:18:23Z")

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This thread is really bizarre. **Magiver** , for real? I mean, come on.

Props to **Smapti** for an excellent impression, especially the parenthetical. Could use more typos. (Or, as **Magiver** might claim, proper spelling examples)

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/25 "2019-09-05T12:38:18Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> This thread is really bizarre. **Magiver** , for real? I mean, come on.

Maybe he’s trump? I mean, has anyone ever met Magiver?

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/26 "2019-09-05T12:45:10Z")

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Nah, spels too guz to be the Skin Blob (thanks, [satw](https://satwcomic.com/return-of-the-lovable-dork)!)

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/27 "2019-09-05T12:54:22Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Maybe he’s trump? I mean, has anyone ever met Magiver?

Should we be adding name to [the list of Trumps’ pseudonyms?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudonyms_of_Donald_Trump)

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**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/28 "2019-09-05T12:57:03Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> As there were a number of models showing it moving through Alabama and Georgia and they were all wrong then where is the lie in the prediction? Seriously. Where is the lie? It’s a prediction. You’d have to be a moron to say the NHC was gospel and there is no concern beyond that prediction which as we know was wrong. It could have been right and continued into Alabama.

(1) [Here](https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2019/DORIAN_graphics.php?product=5day_cone_no_line) you can see how the NHC prediction evolved with time. They never made a prediction that got west of the central part of Florida. It is a lie to imply that they did.

(2) The more important point is this: Trump is using a prediction made on August 29 to justify a tweet he sent out 3 days later that said that Alabama was in the cross-hairs. His tweet, loosely based on (i.e., extrapolated from) outdated 3-day old information, was such a problem that the NWS office in Birmingham Alabama had to issue a [tweet](https://twitter.com/NWSBirmingham/status/1168179647667814400) that said “Alabama will NOT see any impacts from #Dorian. We repeat, no impacts from Hurricane #Dorian will be felt across Alabama. The system will remain too far east”. ([https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/09/04/president-trump-shows-doctored-hurricane-chart-was-it-cover-up-alabama-twitter-flub/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/09/04/president-trump-shows-doctored-hurricane-chart-was-it-cover-up-alabama-twitter-flub/))

Why doesn’t he just own up to his mistake instead of accusing the media of “fake news” when they are accurately reporting his screw up?

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/29 "2019-09-05T13:00:31Z")

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This thread is actively painful to read. Like, if people want to ask me, “ **BPC** , why don’t you have faith in humanity?” I will link to this thread. ☹

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/30 "2019-09-05T14:26:14Z")

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The President has the royal Executive Power to Sharpie anything he wants in the Oval Office. Once Presidentially Sharpied, it is now known as “Official and Not Wrong.”

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/31 "2019-09-05T15:29:10Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> Hurricanes bring water and flooding which is a significant component of the destruction. We have non-hurricane floods all the time that do major damage. but you knew that.
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> Trump was holding was a map of the current projection last Thursday and he projected a little further into Alabama. It was hardly the end of the run or even another day’s worth of projection. The entire point of warning people about a hurricane is so they can prepare. It would be negligent to do otherwise.
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> There is no evidence that the map in question was meant to convey the end of the Hurricane. It was a projection over the next few days and not it’s full movement. It was always projected to move up the coast. As of this posting it’s a Cat-3 storm which has moved beyond Florida and is now in Georgia and S Carolina.

I’d be curious to hear your convoluted thinking about his claims of never having heard of a category 5 hurricane before, despite there having been three of them during his presidency, and having actually announced the fact in the past. The man is a senile, pouting child who has to have his way, regardless of the outlandishness of his claims. It’s really not difficult to say “Oops, I made a mistake there” and laugh something off, but the man is a humorless bully who, as far as I know, has never laughed at himself in his life.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/32 "2019-09-05T15:34:10Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I’d be curious to hear your convoluted thinking about his claims of never having heard of a category 5 hurricane before, despite there having been three of them during his presidency, and having actually announced the fact in the past. The man is a senile, pouting child who has to have his way, regardless of the outlandishness of his claims. It’s really not difficult to say “Oops, I made a mistake there” and laugh something off, but the man is a humorless bully who, as far as I know, has never laughed at himself in his life.

He’s never heard of a category 5 hurricane, he’s only read about them. See, no one has ever actually spoken the words “category 5 hurricane” to him – prove that wrong! Also, 2+2 = 5, and there are 5 lights, freedom is slavery, and so on.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/33 "2019-09-05T15:44:32Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> He’s never heard of a category 5 hurricane, **he’s only read about them.** See, no one has ever actually spoken the words “category 5 hurricane” to him – prove that wrong! Also, 2+2 = 5, and there are 5 lights, freedom is slavery, and so on.

Since when does Trump read?

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/34 "2019-09-05T15:45:47Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Since when does Trump read?

See? More evidence in his favor.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/35 "2019-09-05T15:48:38Z")

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Also, fun fact: [this is illegal](https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/09/04/president-trump-shows-doctored-hurricane-chart-was-it-cover-up-alabama-twitter-flub/).

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> Altering official government weather forecasts isn’t just a cause for concern — it’s illegal. Per 18 U.S. Code 2074, which addresses false weather reports: “Whoever knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit weather forecast or warning of weather conditions falsely representing such forecast or warning to have been issued or published by the Weather Bureau, United States Signal Service, or other branch of the Government service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ninety days, or both.”

But hey, since when did Trump care about the law, right?

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/36 "2019-09-05T16:18:09Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Also, fun fact: [this is illegal](https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/09/04/president-trump-shows-doctored-hurricane-chart-was-it-cover-up-alabama-twitter-flub/).
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> But hey, since when did Trump care about the law, right?

Technically, by the time that the Trumpster showed his map, it wasn’t a forecast anymore. It was just the mindless “I’M RIGHT. I’M ALWAYS RIGHT.” pablum of our toddler president.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/37 "2019-09-05T16:48:09Z")

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> [@Nars\_Glinley](#):
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> Technically, by the time that the Trumpster showed his map, it wasn’t a forecast anymore. It was just the mindless “I’M RIGHT. I’M ALWAYS RIGHT.” pablum of our toddler president.

I absolutely believe that his comments about there never having been a cat 5 hurricane are somehow him bragging that he alone has had to deal with this and that his mismanagement of the mess in Puerto Rico can be blamed on the “fact” that there have never been cat 5 hurricanes ever in history. The “man” is a transparent fool.

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/38 "2019-09-05T17:13:21Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I absolutely believe that his comments about there never having been a cat 5 hurricane are somehow him bragging that he alone has had to deal with this and that his mismanagement of the mess in Puerto Rico can be blamed on the “fact” that there have never been cat 5 hurricanes ever in history. The “man” is a transparent fool.

Every time there’s a category 5 hurricane, Trump claims he’s never heard of it. It’s the strangest thing to brag about that I can possibly imagine.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/OeVCka26BTE/maxresdefault.jpg "Every Time There's a Category 5 Hurricane, Trump Says He's Never Heard of One Before") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeVCka26BTE)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/39 "2019-09-05T17:25:13Z")

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I think this episode proves beyond a reasonable doubt that when Trump loses the 2020 election bigly, his supporters will absolutely believe it when Trump claims that the election was stolen from him by the Mole-Men, who were operating from their base on the far side of the moon, in cooperation with the Shape-shifting Lizard people.

In all seriousness - there are those who would defend a scenario like this, with no reservations whatsoever.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-his-cat-license/839713/40 "2019-09-05T17:45:14Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I absolutely believe that his comments about there never having been a cat 5 hurricane are somehow him bragging that he alone has had to deal with this and that his mismanagement of the mess in Puerto Rico can be blamed on the “fact” that there have never been cat 5 hurricanes ever in history. The “man” is a transparent fool.

I hadn’t really thought it through before, but yeah I think you’ve nailed it here. “I alone have handled three Category 5 Hurricanes!” Good read.

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