# Trump apparently considering firing Mueller - If he does that what's the real world impact? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 13, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apparently-considering-firing-mueller-if-he-does-that-whats-the-real-world-impact/788867 "2017-06-13T15:07:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apparently-considering-firing-mueller-if-he-does-that-whats-the-real-world-impact/788867/41 "2017-06-16T14:16:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Have y’all seen this one yet? > [url=[http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_TRUMP\_RUSSIA\_PROBE\_THE\_LATEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-06-16-09-28-37](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP_RUSSIA_PROBE_THE_LATEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-06-16-09-28-37)] Time to call 911. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apparently-considering-firing-mueller-if-he-does-that-whats-the-real-world-impact/788867/42 "2017-06-16T14:22:30Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Have y’all seen this one yet? > [url=[http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_TRUMP\_RUSSIA\_PROBE\_THE\_LATEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-06-16-09-28-37](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP_RUSSIA_PROBE_THE_LATEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-06-16-09-28-37)] > > > [@](#): > > > > “I am being investigated for firing the FBI Director by the man who told me to fire the FBI Director! Witch Hunt.” I find it very strange he has no sense of the self-contradiction given his own interview and public declarations… ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apparently-considering-firing-mueller-if-he-does-that-whats-the-real-world-impact/788867/43 "2017-06-16T14:56:47Z")
Question: Could Trump’s derogatory comments about the investigation (“witch hunt”) and the special prosecutor be offered as evidence for obstruction of justice? In any organization, the Big Boss’ opinion about an activity holds a lot of sway among the peons doing the work. Few people would expect that the Big Boss could badmouth a project and it _not_ have a chilling effect on the people leading that project. Why would the executive branch work any different? What’s also concerning is how the GOP is collectively throwing shade on Mueller too. It certainly suggests they are also trying to influence the investigation by publicly painting Mueller as biased and partisan. How is this legal? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apparently-considering-firing-mueller-if-he-does-that-whats-the-real-world-impact/788867/44 "2017-06-16T15:34:37Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > The news media outlets reported that a longtime personal friend of Trump’s said Trump was considering firing Mueller, and that several high-profile Trump supporters including Newt Gingrich and Ann Coulter opined that he should do just that. The evidence to back up this “horseshit” includes the public statements made by each of these people. > > If you have your own evidence disproving the “horseshit” that these people said these things about Trump, I’m sure we’d all appreciate your presenting it. It would be quite the scoop. Hahahaha. First things first, do you have any actual evidence that Trump intended to fire Mueller? The lame stream media should have actually done their job and actually verified this probable/suspected/false/mistaken/phoney intended firing BEFORE they began their rumor-mongering campaign. You know, supply the actual who, what, why, where, and when of Trump’s possible/probable firing of Mueller. The LSM only had to question four (4) people. Ruddy, the Trump lawyer who Ruddy claimed suggested the possible firing, Trump, and Mueller. Four people! Is that asking to much? While many people have REPLIED to LSM questions concerning the non-existent Mueller-firing, do any of them have any actual evidence that Trump considered firing Mueller? The LSM is driving this story/horseshit. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apparently-considering-firing-mueller-if-he-does-that-whats-the-real-world-impact/788867/45 "2017-06-16T15:43:12Z")
perhaps useful observation: beginning the posts with a text braying like that of the donkey does not make the remainder of the post read in a way more credible. of course using the boring partisan political phrasing also does not help… ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apparently-considering-firing-mueller-if-he-does-that-whats-the-real-world-impact/788867/46 "2017-06-16T16:52:22Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > perhaps useful observation: beginning the posts with a text braying like that of the donkey does not make the remainder of the post read in a way more credible. > > of course using the boring partisan political phrasing also does not help… Hahahaha. Which part did I get wrong? Ruddy made a claim that Trump would probably fire Mueller. Did the LSM verify that there was any actual evidence that Trump would actually fire Mueller? No. Did the LSM ask everyone and their mother what should be done if Trump actually fired Mueller? Yes. While there are many LSM-requested opinions from non-participants, has the LSM uncovered any actual evidence that Trump was going to fire Mueller? No. Has the LSM generated public interest, and advertising interest, in their unverified story? Yes. The opinions of the non-participants to the Trump-will-probably-fire-Mueller story haven’t provided any evidence that Trump will fire Mueller. The LSM are the ones who are driving this rumor mongering non-story. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apparently-considering-firing-mueller-if-he-does-that-whats-the-real-world-impact/788867/47 "2017-06-16T16:57:21Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > perhaps useful observation: beginning the posts with a text braying like that of the donkey does not make the remainder of the post read in a way more credible. > > of course using the boring partisan political phrasing also does not help… Aye; using “LSM” and “lame stream media” in nearly every sentence does not engender credence, only incredulity. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apparently-considering-firing-mueller-if-he-does-that-whats-the-real-world-impact/788867/48 "2017-06-16T17:02:52Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Hahahaha. Which part did I get wrong? this part, where you begin posts with a phrase that sounds like a donkey braying. It was the friendly observation that it does not help you… If you insist to continue to engage in the writing habits that make you sound like a stupid person or the braying donkey, you have that freedom of course. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apparently-considering-firing-mueller-if-he-does-that-whats-the-real-world-impact/788867/49 "2017-06-16T17:15:30Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Aye; using “LSM” and “lame stream media” in nearly every sentence does not engender credence, only incredulity. Indeed. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apparently-considering-firing-mueller-if-he-does-that-whats-the-real-world-impact/788867/50 "2017-06-16T17:26:04Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > this part, where you begin posts with a phrase that sounds like a donkey braying. It was the friendly observation that it does not help you… (post shortened) Thank you for your kind consideration. Can I assume that you agree with what was said, but not with how it was said? ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apparently-considering-firing-mueller-if-he-does-that-whats-the-real-world-impact/788867/51 "2017-06-16T17:30:03Z")
I am completely uninterested in the domestic American partisan political posturing of either side. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_blistering_barnacle/32/3386_2.png) [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Blistering_Barnacle)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apparently-considering-firing-mueller-if-he-does-that-whats-the-real-world-impact/788867/52 "2017-06-16T17:34:06Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > (post shortened) > > Thank you for your kind consideration. > > Can I assume that you agree with what was said, but not with how it was said? Calls for speculation on your part. Better confirm first. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apparently-considering-firing-mueller-if-he-does-that-whats-the-real-world-impact/788867/53 "2017-06-16T18:40:42Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > > [@doorhinge](#): > > > > Hahahaha. Which part did I get wrong? > > this part, where you begin posts with a phrase that sounds like a donkey braying. It was the friendly observation that it does not help you… > > If you insist to continue to engage in the writing habits that make you sound like a stupid person or the braying donkey, you have that freedom of course. A significant percentage of his posts begin with “Hahahaha.” It adds a sweaty desperation to his persona, which actually fits right in. ---
**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apparently-considering-firing-mueller-if-he-does-that-whats-the-real-world-impact/788867/54 "2017-06-16T19:33:24Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Hahahaha. Which part did I get wrong? > > Ruddy made a claim that Trump would probably fire Mueller. > > Did the LSM verify that there was any actual evidence that Trump would actually fire Mueller? No. > > Did the LSM ask everyone and their mother what should be done if Trump actually fired Mueller? Yes. > > While there are many LSM-requested opinions from non-participants, has the LSM uncovered any actual evidence that Trump was going to fire Mueller? No. > > Has the LSM generated public interest, and advertising interest, in their unverified story? Yes. > > The opinions of the non-participants to the Trump-will-probably-fire-Mueller story haven’t provided any evidence that Trump will fire Mueller. > > The LSM are the ones who are driving this rumor mongering non-story. I’m curious… Which media outlets were reporting that Trump was - definitively - going to fire Mueller? All of the articles I read pretty explicitly stated that Ruddy said that Trump was considering firing Mueller. As far as I can tell, that actually happened. It looks more like Ruddy was talking out of his ass. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-apparently-considering-firing-mueller-if-he-does-that-whats-the-real-world-impact/788867.md?page=2)