# Trump as terrorist **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 5, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266 "2019-01-05T21:21:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/21 "2019-01-06T06:50:07Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Seriously, guys. Trump wants funds allocated for a border wall, Dems don’t. The impasse depends on both parties. Either one could cave and resolve the issue. Why not blame Pelosi and Schumer as the terrorists? That makes equal sense as blaming Trump. Trump is making the demands. Pelosi and Schumer et al are not caving to those demands. How the fuq does that make THEM the terrorists? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/22 "2019-01-06T06:51:45Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Trump is not a Republican, except on paper. He is a party unto himself. The Republicans hate him as much as the Democrats do. And you know that as well as I do. It seems they’re happy to suck his dick regardless. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/23 "2019-01-06T06:54:10Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Trump is not a Republican, except on paper. He is a party unto himself. The Republicans hate him as much as the Democrats do. And you know that as well as I do. Then why did you say that Trump wants a wall, Dems dont, yadda yadda, both parties, yadda yadda? ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/24 "2019-01-06T06:54:16Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Trump is making the demands. Pelosi and Schumer et al are not caving to those demands. How the fuq does that make THEM the terrorists? > > :dubious: Are you paying attention? NEITHER are terrorists. They are two opposing parties with opposing goals. It’s a classic negotiation situation. Nobody is a terrorist. They are all doing their best to get to their goals. Nobody is using terror, they are just using the power of their positions to get to their goals. Who will win? That remains to be seen. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/25 "2019-01-06T07:09:25Z")
If the Republicans hate Trump as much as Democrats, I’d love to know why Republican Mitch McConnell is such a subservient bootlicker and enabler. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/26 "2019-01-06T07:13:45Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > If the Republicans hate Trump as much as Democrats, I’d love to know why Republican Mitch McConnell is such a subservient bootlicker and enabler. You answered your own question. Because he is a bootlicker and an enabler. I’m a Trump supporter, but I am by no means a Republican sycophant. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/27 "2019-01-06T07:18:18Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > I’m a Trump supporter… OK, sincere question here. Why are you a Trump supporter? What has he done for you personally or the country in general that sees your support? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/28 "2019-01-06T07:22:32Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > You answered your own question. Because he is a bootlicker and an enabler. > > I’m a Trump supporter, but I am by no means a Republican sycophant. So when you said that a resolution was up to both parties, you meant the Republicans, and whatever party Trump and his supporters are. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/29 "2019-01-06T07:44:20Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > OK, sincere question here. Why are you a Trump supporter? What has he done for you personally or the country in general that sees your support? Thank you for a sincere and polite question. I will give you a sincere answer: 1. Stock market is up. Yes, it is down in the last few months, but it is STILL up about 20% since he took office. That makes me happy. I may be able to retire early. 2. Judicial nominees: He has appointed two solid conservative justices to the SCOTUS. That is HUGE. 3. Unemployment is WAY down. This is a soft positive, as I have been employed for a long time. But I’m happy for my fellow Americans to have more jobs. 4. Right-to-Try legislation for experimental treatments of terminal illnesses. 5. Tax reform. I don’t think it will affect me much directly, but the affect on corporate taxes will trickle down and benefit us all. 6. Although he has been stymied by Democrats, he is doing his damndest to repeal Obamacare, and to build the border wall. The fact that neither has happened is not his fault, and I give him credit for NOT GIVING UP on trying to accomplish both. I sincerely hope that he hangs tough on both issues. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/30 "2019-01-06T13:50:09Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Seriously, guys. Trump wants funds allocated for a border wall, Dems don’t. The impasse depends on both parties. Either one could cave and resolve the issue. Why not blame Pelosi and Schumer as the terrorists? That makes equal sense as blaming Trump. This deserves an answer and I will give one. Under the US constitution, Congress determines policy and the president executes it. Congress has already decided that the policy is no wall and it is up to the president to yield. Yes, the president can recommend policy (SOTU speech and otherwise–including, I suppose, tweets) but he is not empowered to make it, except as congress has ceded a power to him. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/31 "2019-01-06T14:19:36Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Trump is not a Republican, except on paper. He is a party unto himself. The Republicans hate him as much as the Democrats do. And you know that as well as I do. Oh, please. “Republicans hate Trump!” is a fiction his supporters tell themselves to hype the myth that Trump is an outside, just stickin’ it to both sides and draining the swamp. The reality is that Trump is the logical endgame of the Republican mindset stripped of its politeness. That’s why McConnell barely grumbles and Republicans like Graham fell in line immediately; whatever minor differences there are pale to their 98% shared goals. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/32 "2019-01-06T14:24:50Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > (knee slapper) > Right, because Democrats didn’t cave to Trump’s ransom demand when he shut down the Republican controlled government, then Democrats are guilty of the thing that Trump did, and Republicans enabled. That’s a good one! That’s like Chief Robinson blaming John McClane when Hans Gruber shot Harry Ellis. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/33 "2019-01-06T14:29:17Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > 1. Right-to-Try legislation for experimental treatments of terminal illnesses. You should read up on that. People were ALREADY allowed to try experimental treatments before RTT. All RTT does is absolve the drug manufacturers of any liability for negative effects from the experimental treatments. That is, their survivors cannot sue to manufacturers. Further, negative results from using desperate dying people as guinea pigs cannot be used in determining the validity of the experimental treatment! What good is that? RTT is just a cynical way to separate the desperate and dying from their last amounts of money. Hey, they won’t be needing it, amirite? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/34 "2019-01-06T16:13:28Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > I don’t know about terrorist. > > Extortionist? Yeah. But terror means killing innocents. Trump is just making them miserable. Did you consider Clinton an extortionist when the government shut down during his administration? ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/35 "2019-01-06T16:34:08Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Did you consider Clinton an extortionist when the government shut down during his administration? I do, do you? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/36 "2019-01-06T22:28:25Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > Trump is holding 800,000 people’s pay hostage until he gets his demands. That’s got to be one of the biggest terrorist acts in history. How many people have been shot/blown up/stabbed/run over/poisoned at Trump’s orders as part of the shutdown? I have a more restrictive definition of “terrorism”. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/37 "2019-01-06T22:37:50Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > Why hasn’t this been mentioned in the media? > > Trump is holding 800,000 people’s pay hostage until he gets his demands. That’s got to be one of the biggest terrorist acts in history. Good grief. This is a serious question here…do you know any history at all? Even if we count holding people’s pay hostage as an actual terrorist act Trump wouldn’t even be in the top 100 if we count, you know, actually killing people in that category (yeah, I know…mind blown). Hell, Stalin and Mao KILLED 800K of their own people in single years, then there was that Hitler guy. I believe that in all these cases they ALSO deprived them of their pay, so this has got to count on even your list, right? (seriously not enough :rolleyes: unless this is a joke thread) ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/38 "2019-01-09T01:58:26Z")
Gee, I’m not the only one… [Steven King.](https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/01/06/stephen-king-trump-holding-federal-workers-hostage-for-his-pet-project/) [Steny Hoyer.](https://yourvalley.net/yourvalley/state/the-latest-hoyer-says-trump-holding-government-hostage/) [Hakeem Jeffries.](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hakeem-jeffries-shutdown_us_5c29dec8e4b0407e908449a1) [Joe Neguse.](https://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2019/01/07/colorado-rep-joe-neguse-says-president-donald-trump-holding-government-hostage-over-border-wall/2501652002/) ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/39 "2019-01-09T17:45:17Z")
You are the only one saying he’s a terrorist and that this act is one of the ‘biggest terrorist acts in history’. Also, I’m not sure what appealing to, um, authority (like Steven King) gains you on this. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266/40 "2019-01-09T17:53:41Z")
> [@XT](#): > > You are the only one saying he’s a terrorist and that this act is one of the ‘biggest terrorist acts in history’. Also, I’m not sure what appealing to, um, authority (like Steven King) gains you on this. 😉 Holding people hostage on a mass scale is terrorism. Is it hyperbole? Perhaps. But certainly nothing on the scale of what the current administration has said. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-as-terrorist/827266.md?page=3)