# Trump asking aides if Pence is loyal

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [November 17, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658 "2018-11-17T02:10:57Z")
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### Author: ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/1 "2018-11-17T02:10:57Z")

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Maybe Donny is thinking of quitting? Or is he thinking of getting another running mate for 2020?

> **[Trump privately asking aides if Pence is loyal: report](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/417135-trump-privately-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal-report/)**
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> President Trump has privately asked aides about his vice president Mike Pence’s loyalty, The New York Times reported Friday.Trump reportedly questioned Pence’s allegiance so m…

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### Author: ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/2 "2018-11-17T02:29:07Z")

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Perhaps there are some unspoken words in the question?

> [@Donald J. Trump](#):
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> Is Mike Pence loyal [del]enough to pardon me[/del]?

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### Author: ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/3 "2018-11-17T03:08:34Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Perhaps there are some unspoken words in the question?

Pence won’t pardon Trump because he’d have no reason to.

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### Author: ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/4 "2018-11-17T03:17:07Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Maybe Donny is thinking of quitting? Or is he thinking of getting another running mate for 2020?
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> [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/417135-trump-privately-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal-report](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/417135-trump-privately-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal-report)

Could just as easily be that he’s started binge watching the first season of house of cards.

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### Author: ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/5 "2018-11-17T03:18:28Z")

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My prediction is that pence isn’t on the 2020 ticket. Might be Trump/Haley.

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/6 "2018-11-17T04:46:22Z")

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It’s going to be a hilarious conversation when Trump tells Kelly he wants Pence fired.

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### Author: ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/7 "2018-11-17T05:03:43Z")

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And Pence becomes the latest Trump associate to understand the parable of the Scorpion and the Frog.

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### Author: ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/8 "2018-11-17T05:15:42Z")

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Talking animals? The devil’s work! Pence would have no truck with that!

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/9 "2018-11-17T05:22:34Z")

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Pence actually pays attention to what Jesus was whispering all those years, and quits. The Senate cannot settle on Jeanne Pirro or Sean Hannity, so the office is unfilled when Trump tweets “Fuck you! I quit!”.

President Pelosi.

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### Author: ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/10 "2018-11-17T05:30:09Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Pence actually pays attention to what Jesus was whispering all those years, and quits. The Senate cannot settle on Jeanne Pirro or Sean Hannity, so the office is unfilled when Trump tweets “Fuck you! I quit!”.
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> President Pelosi.

Or Fudge!

I mean, if we’re fantasizing here, I’m going President Fudge.

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### Author: ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/11 "2018-11-17T06:11:18Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Or Fudge!
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> I mean, if we’re fantasizing here, I’m going President Fudge.

I’d heard the name but knew nothing about her. just looked her up.  
where has she been hiding? I’m on board!

mc

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### Author: ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/12 "2018-11-17T07:02:42Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Could just as easily be that he’s started binge watching the first season of house of cards.

I’m trying to imagine this and the mind boggles. He’d need a flow chart, and at least 2 aides with cheat sheets.

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### Author: ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/13 "2018-11-17T12:15:27Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I mean, if we’re fantasizing here, I’m going President Fudge.

Sorry, she’s our Prime Minister right now.

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### Author: ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/14 "2018-11-17T17:11:18Z")

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Remember, the Vice President needs to be confirmed by the Senate _and the House_.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/15 "2018-11-17T17:26:13Z")

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Trump probably wouldn’t care if the VP spot was empty, and I can’t imagine he gets along all that well, personally, with someone who is so deeply religious. Pence served his purpose during the last election, and isn’t really needed anymore.

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### Author: ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/16 "2018-11-17T18:01:49Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Trump probably wouldn’t care if the VP spot was empty, and I can’t imagine he gets along all that well, personally, with someone who is so deeply religious. Pence served his purpose during the last election, and isn’t really needed anymore.

Thump would probably like Ivanka for VP. Or Don Jr., Eric, or Kushner. Keep it in the family.

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### Author: ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/17 "2018-11-17T18:31:46Z")

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Trump has denied everything, so I guess that settles that. :rolleyes:

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### Author: ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/18 "2018-11-17T19:02:00Z")

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Trump wants to know if Pence is loyal?? What, the loving “my hero” twinkle in the eyes and the cartoon hearts fluttering about isn’t good enough for him?

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### Author: ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/19 "2018-11-17T19:07:01Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Sorry, she’s our Prime Minister right now.

😃

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### Author: ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2018, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-asking-aides-if-pence-is-loyal/824658/20 "2018-11-20T07:21:30Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> And Pence becomes the latest Trump associate to understand the parable of the Scorpion and the Frog.

More like Scorpion and another kind of scorpion.
