# Trump Assassination Attempt Conspiracies **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [July 24, 2024, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723 "2024-07-24T02:42:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/41 "2024-07-26T03:42:33Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > The question is who has the cool head, nerves of steel and unmatched skill to make such a shot, only one person Hawkeye. And the implication of that is that the real Donald Trump was replaced and it was actually a Skrull who was elected in 2016. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/42 "2024-07-26T05:21:53Z")
Two people trump no doubt idolizes took shots to the head and had the sense to retire. Johnny Torrio, Al Capone’s partner, was shot by Bugs Moran, and Frank Costello, boss of the Genevese Family was shot by the Chin. So there’s precedence. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/43 "2024-07-26T05:42:05Z")
I think Trump was attacked by a tiger. (Full points to anyone who knows that reference.) ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/44 "2024-07-26T19:30:15Z")
Real live conspiracy theory I saw while slumming on conservative message boards. Crooks was working for the FBI , as evidence, there was an email address [tmcrooks@fbi.gov](mailto:tmcrooks@fbi.gov) created in 2020. Now to their credit most of the people on that board point out that the wannabe assassin Crooks was 16 in 2020 and so was unlikely to be part of the FBI and most likely it was just another person named crooks who shared Thomas’ initials. Although some remain convinced using his 2022 [appearance](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/thomas-matthew-crooks-blackrock-ad-pulled/) in the background of an ad for an investment firm as proof that he was part of the deep state at an early age. Less to their credit, several of those who accept that its bullshit are now claiming that this email address was created by the FBI, so that right wingers would latch on to it and they could then be discredited as whacko conspiracy theorists. There is really no helping these people. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/45 "2024-07-27T02:15:31Z")
We’re not digging deep enough. I only watched one video of the event (which may have been on CNN - it’s been awhile), but I watched it over and over, that first day. On about the third viewing, I noticed an old man in the audience. This silver-bearded fellow wasn’t watching the cluster of SS dragging Trump to the big black van. He was watching the camera that was filming, first the shot and reaction, and then the exit. From about the time that the clump was halfway to the van, this cheerful geezer flipped off the camera. He’d turn his head to follow the clump, reposition his bouncing finger, and turn back to the camera. It was really obvious, once you noticed. Until the van drove away, that silver geezer was flipping off America. No. As far as that video has spread, he was flipping off the world. He’s the one who paid off the shooter. It didn’t matter if the shooter hit anyone. Trump would be removed, and the clump would follow the pre-planned route. The grinning man was positioned to deliver the bird no matter what the result was. Did anyone else notice the grinning bird man? How could that video have been played so many times with no one commenting on that? I bet no one will ever know who he was. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/46 "2024-07-27T03:48:55Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > Did anyone else notice the grinning bird man? Couldn’t miss him. He looked like a real raver. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/47 "2024-07-27T04:10:13Z")
Thank you. He was having a wonderful time. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/48 "2024-07-27T16:57:55Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > I bet no one will ever know who he was. That was the **real** John Barron. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/49 "2024-07-27T17:19:24Z")
[![](https://i.imgur.com/tsg9E4t.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/tsg9E4t.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/50 "2024-07-28T15:30:24Z")
If this has already been addressed upthread I apologize as I did not read all the posts. It is hard to believe that simple incompetency could have been responsible for the security failure. I do suspect that the " Not my job man" mentality could have played a part here. The secret service had an assigned perimeter they were responsible for, it is not hard to imagine a key individual with a bad attitude just ignoring anything outside of this perimeter. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/51 "2024-07-28T18:02:16Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That was the **real** John Barron. Nice. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/52 "2024-07-28T19:18:20Z")
When the FBI recruited Crooks, he was a Johnboy cosplayer at Walton-con '24. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/53 "2024-07-28T20:00:30Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > It is hard to believe that simple incompetency could have been responsible for the security failure. I do suspect that the " Not my job man" mentality could have played a part here. The secret service had an assigned perimeter they were responsible for, it is not hard to imagine a key individual with a bad attitude just ignoring anything outside of this perimeter. [CT mode] Of course there was a deliberate act by SS agents. The only way they could have missed a guy crawling on the roof of a building with a gun, especially with civilians pointing to the police and screaming “There’s a man up there with a gun!” [/CT mode] Reality is to be reserved for another thread. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats2)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/54 "2024-07-29T16:01:48Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I think Trump was attacked by a tiger. > > (Full points to anyone who knows that reference.) Do you mean full points as in pointed sticks? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/55 "2024-07-29T16:22:19Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](#): > > Do you mean full points as in pointed sticks? No. There’s a comedy sketch that I have posted before in Kennedy assassination threads. It’s a game show where the contestants have to explain their Kennedy conspiracy theories. The champ is someone who believes that Kennedy was killed by a tiger. He’s played by Bill Nye. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/56 "2024-07-29T17:11:08Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > This silver-bearded fellow wasn’t watching the cluster of SS dragging Trump to the big black van. He was watching the camera that was filming, first the shot and reaction, and then the exit. > > From about the time that the clump was halfway to the van, this cheerful geezer flipped off the camera. He’d turn his head to follow the clump, reposition his bouncing finger, and turn back to the camera. It was really obvious, once you noticed. > [@Irishman](#): > > Of course there was a deliberate act by SS agents. The only way they could have missed a guy crawling on the roof of a building with a gun, especially with civilians pointing to the police and screaming “There’s a man up there with a gun!” Put the pieces together. There was a bearded old man at the scene. Somebody yelled “There’s a man with a gun over there.” It’s obvious, people. Stephen Stills shot Donald Trump. That’s my theory, for what it’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/57 "2024-07-29T17:15:25Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > That’s my theory, for what it’s worth. Does the conspiracy include Crosby, Nash & Young? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/58 "2024-07-29T17:18:19Z")
Definitely Nash and Young. They’re immigrants, so we know they’re up to no good. Crosby’s got a pretty good alibi though. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/59 "2024-07-29T17:18:46Z")
I can’t wrap my head around the fact that Crooks was observed by law enforcement using a range finder and somehow he wasn’t immediately detained. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723/60 "2024-07-29T18:09:38Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Crosby’s got a pretty good alibi though. He was with JFK Jr planning the big reveal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracies/1004723.md?page=4)