# Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 23, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799 "2017-03-23T00:28:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/202 "2017-05-10T03:20:46Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Wanna bet there are more subpoenas coming?

I don’t expect any that are not Flynn (or Carter Page, though he’s too much of an idiot to be charged) related. But if there are any, THEN the breathless revelations of subpoenas would be justified. These are just ho-hum.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/203 "2017-05-10T03:36:23Z")

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Little more than locker room talk, really.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/204 "2017-05-10T04:51:08Z")

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BTW - about “timing” - the subpoenas were issued some weeks ago.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/205 "2017-05-10T05:39:53Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> You do understand that nuclear option has already been deployed and that anyone Trump appoints only needs 50 votes in the Senate, right?

I had understood that it was just the cabinet and (now) Supreme Court justices that could get through with 51%. If the FBI director is in there too, than that’s quite unfortunate.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/206 "2017-05-10T08:09:50Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> I had understood that it was just the cabinet and (now) Supreme Court justices that could get through with 51%. If the FBI director is in there too, than that’s quite unfortunate.

My understanding was that Harry Reid’s nuclear rule change was for all non-SCOTUS nominees. Judges, cabinet, FBI Director, etc. Lots of people tried to warn Reid and Dems at the time that it would be unfortunate. They did not listen.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/207 "2017-05-10T08:30:33Z")

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I don’t see how it’s unfortunate at all. The worst thing the Republicans in the Senate could do right now is rubber-stamp an FBI director who is going to let Trump off the hook. How many Republican Senators are going to continue sticking their necks out for Trump as Trump continues to attempt self-immolation? Party before country I can see. Party before self-interest? Not so much.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/208 "2017-05-10T09:09:08Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Either you or I has a horribly erroneous understanding of the requirements to appoint a new FBI Director. Here is mine: Harry Reid eliminated the 60-vote filibuster threshold for all non-SCOTUS presidential nominees back in 2013. The Democrats can’t block shit.

And I suppose you’re proud of your party’s eventual nomination and confirmation of Ted fucking Nugent.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/209 "2017-05-10T09:29:08Z")

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And you know that would be the Democrat’s fault for allowing Republicans to do it, too.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/210 "2017-05-10T13:40:14Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> And I suppose you’re proud of your party’s eventual nomination and confirmation of Ted fucking Nugent.

What have you that idea? I like Ted, but he’s not really FBI Director material.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/211 "2017-05-10T16:36:46Z")

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We are reassured.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/212 "2017-05-10T16:59:01Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> What have you that idea? I like Ted, but he’s not really FBI Director material.

Trump has made a habit of putting people in positions that they are not qualified for. Starting with POTUS.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/213 "2017-05-10T20:23:03Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> The worst thing the Republicans in the Senate could do right now is rubber-stamp an FBI director who is going to let Trump off the hook. How many Republican Senators are going to continue sticking their necks out for Trump as Trump continues to attempt self-immolation? Party before country I can see. Party before self-interest? Not so much.

Part of the Russia CT is that the GOP or at least its leadership is being blackmailed by Russia (RNC emails, never released, awash in Russian dark money). So on top of their usual love of consolidating power, don’t count on that.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/214 "2017-05-10T20:26:49Z")

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That’s the more limited CT. The real CT goes far beyond that.

The real CT is that all 63 million people who voted for Trump were all being blackmailed by Russia (via hacks of gmail, yahoo, and all other hacks of anyone by anyone over the last 10 years).

It’s the only rational explanation for his victory …

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/215 "2017-05-10T20:41:06Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> And you know that would be the Democrat’s fault for allowing Republicans to do it, too.

I thought that it would be Obama and Hillary’s fault.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/216 "2017-05-10T21:34:31Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> I thought that it would be Obama and Hillary’s fault.

Obama and Hillary are out of politics and safely neutralized. Now, things will be blamed on those Democrats who might present a future threat, like Elizabeth Warren. In fact, the Benghazi attack and Hillary’s e-mail server may turn out to be Warren’s fault, too.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/217 "2017-05-10T21:50:21Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> That’s the more limited CT. The real CT goes far beyond that.
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> The real CT is that all 63 million people who voted for Trump were all being blackmailed by Russia (via hacks of gmail, yahoo, and all other hacks of anyone by anyone over the last 10 years).
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> It’s the only rational explanation for his victory …

Or…people are stupid.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/218 "2017-05-11T01:26:23Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Obama and Hillary are out of politics and safely neutralized. Now, things will be blamed on those Democrats who might present a future threat, like Elizabeth Warren. In fact, the Benghazi attack and Hillary’s e-mail server may turn out to be Warren’s fault, too.

But aren’t they currently blaming Obama for their lack of vetting of Flynn?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/219 "2017-05-11T01:31:04Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Or…people are stupid.

Please… they are the common clay of the new west.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/220 "2017-05-11T11:14:08Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Please… they are the common clay of the new west.

Dems :eek:

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/221 "2017-05-11T17:28:59Z")

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Seems [relevant](http://www.wbaltv.com/article/fbi-searching-annapolis-fundraiserconsulting-firm/9639787).

Not much information yet, but the FBI is executing a search warrant on a GOP fundraising firm in Virginia.

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