# Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 23, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799 "2017-03-23T00:28:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 151
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3004 "2017-11-19T23:07:51Z")
We’re not paranoid! ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3005 "2017-11-19T23:20:03Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > . . . you cretin! This is a Warning to refrain from hurtling personal insults at posters outside The BBQ Pit. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3006 "2017-11-19T23:22:18Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > I’m really starting to believe this message-board is populated by a bunch of paranoid assholes. I am not going to issue multiple Warnings for posts that were posted at the same time, but this is also not appropriate language to be directed at other posters. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3007 "2017-11-19T23:26:25Z")
> [@Fubaya](#): > > Your posting style is very familiar. What was your previous name? This is WAY too close to an accusation of sock-puppetry. Knock it off. If you believe a poster is engaged in sock puppetry, report the post. Do not make public accusations. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3008 "2017-11-19T23:37:42Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > And just exactly who the fuck are you? Those are not the correct lyrics. You are clearly no serious fan of Townsend and Entwistle. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3009 "2017-11-20T00:17:42Z")
Who? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3010 "2017-11-20T00:26:56Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Here’s what you said: > > You’re claiming that the “Trump” on “[Trump Tower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Tower_(disambiguation))” is Fred Trump? > > That’s actually kind of funny. But this is a hijack of the thread, so feel free to have the last word on this. I don’t know how you could claim anything else. Trump Tower was built by the company founded and made successful by Fred Trump. If Paris Hilton takes over the Hilton brand tomorrow, it’s still not her name on those hotels. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3011 "2017-11-20T00:48:12Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Who? You know, Baba O’Reilly, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3012 "2017-11-20T01:20:04Z")
> [@An account](#): > > I’m really starting to believe this message-board is populated by a bunch of paranoid assholes. > [@Randolph](#): > > We’re not paranoid! 😃 This thread is apparently more successfully-persuasive than we’d have guessed. Clearly the crème de la crème (aka сливки крема) have been enlisted to derail it. What a compliment! Elsewhere in the world, a Russian ambassador is Righteously Indignant at allegations of electoral interference–trying to enlist (or stoke) ancient inter-nation resentments in aid of his cause: > [@](#): > > Russia’s new ambassador to Ireland has described allegations that Moscow is interfering in other countries’ democratic processes as ridiculous and ludicrous. > … Our response to that is a cliche in Russia. When you have anything ridiculous, or out of this world, Russians say, ‘British scientists have discovered . . .’ It’s like April Fool’s Day,” he said… [Allegations of Russian interference are ludicrous, says new ambassador – The Irish Times](https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/allegations-of-russian-interference-are-ludicrous-says-new-ambassador-1.3297621) ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3013 "2017-11-20T02:46:05Z")
Mueller is demanding documents from the Justice Department. > **[Special counsel sends wide-ranging request for documents to Justice Department](https://abcnews.go.com/US/special-counsel-sends-wide-ranging-request-documents-justice/story?id=51261366&cid=social_twitter_abcn)** Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3014 "2017-11-20T03:50:38Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > Wow. Revelatory. :rolleyes: > > Will you be prognosticating on their upcoming discussions next? What part of Russia do you live in, again? ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3015 "2017-11-20T16:46:28Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I don’t know how you could claim anything else. Trump Tower was built by the company founded and made successful by Fred Trump. If Paris Hilton takes over the Hilton brand tomorrow, it’s still not her name on those hotels. The (fairly obvious) point that he’s making is that those towers are named “Trump” because they’re trying to conjure up the well-known Donald Trump, not the completely obscure Fred Trump. > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > What part of Russia do you live in, again? You can see it from Sarah Palin’s roof. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3016 "2017-11-23T22:16:15Z")
[A Split From Trump Indicates That Flynn Is Moving to Cooperate With Mueller](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/23/us/politics/flynn-mueller-russia-trump.html) > [@The New York Times](#): > > Lawyers for Michael T. Flynn, President Trump’s former national security adviser, notified the president’s legal team in recent days that they could no longer discuss the special counsel’s investigation, according to four people involved in the case, an indication that Mr. Flynn is cooperating with prosecutors or negotiating such a deal. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3017 "2017-11-23T22:50:29Z")
Treachery and treason was last week. This week, its groping. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3018 "2017-11-25T02:25:11Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Treachery and treason was last week. This week, its groping. I miss the good ol’ days, when it was treachery OR treason week (and it was followed by Using a Long Word Where a Short One Would Do week). And my far-right parents were convinced that the Russkies were the bad guys. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3019 "2017-11-25T12:49:28Z")
Todays Right wing take their direction from their cable news instigators and alt media hallucinators, and believe the enemy is anyone that looks closely at Republicans in high places: > **[Anger at Mueller burns hot on the right](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/361610-anger-at-mueller-burns-hot-on-the-right/)** > > Conservative media outlets have been building an expansive case against Mueller. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3020 "2017-11-26T02:30:38Z")
The _N.Y. Times_ has an [interesting article: “Why Putin’s Foes Deplore U.S. Fixation on Election Meddling”](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/23/world/europe/russia-vladimir-putin-liberals.html). The fixation by American liberals on Putin’s alleged stealing of the election plays into Putin’s hands, making him seem more powerful than he is. > [@](#): > > “American liberals are so upset about Trump that they cannot believe he is a real product of American life,” Mr. Kurilla [Russian Professor of History specializing in America] said. “They try to portray him as something created by Russia. This whole thing is about America, not Russia.” > > Top Russian opposition leaders post at Facebook: “What is happening with ‘the investigation into Russian interference,’ is not just a disgrace but a collective eclipse of the mind.” ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3021 "2017-11-26T04:28:24Z")
It’s true that electing Trump, who was/is obviously a horrible fit, is on America. However, part of why he’s not fit to be president is that he doesn’t think anything of coordinating with Russia. Cares nothing about the integrity of US elections. So it’s on the electorate, not Russia, for not realizing he’s unfit, but part of the reason he’s unfit is Russia. So it’s still important. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3022 "2017-11-26T19:10:56Z")
Sorry to break it to Putin, but this ultimately is not about him. What’s got sensible American people pissed off is the American Republican (lack of) response or anger about the whole box of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3023 "2017-11-27T16:32:27Z")
Another [Flynn “Oops - I forgot to disclose”](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michael-flynns-role-in-middle-eastern-nuclear-project-could-compound-legal-issues/2017/11/26/51ce7ec8-ce18-11e7-81bc-c55a220c8cbe_story.html?utm_term=.42a2ff976929) > [@](#): > > In June 2015, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn took a little-noticed trip to Egypt and Israel, paid for by a U.S. company he was advising. The company hoped to build more than two dozen nuclear plants in the region in partnership with Russian interests. > > Flynn’s quiet involvement in that project — and his failure to disclose his ties to the effort — could complicate the legal issues facing President Trump’s former national security adviser, who has signaled he may be willing to cooperate with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III. > > Congressional Democrats say that Flynn may have violated federal law by failing to disclose the Middle Eastern trip in his security clearance renewal application in 2016. A top House Republican declined the Democrats’ request for a congressional inquiry but referred the allegations to the special counsel. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799.md?page=150) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799.md?page=152)