# Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 23, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799 "2017-03-23T00:28:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 173
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3444 "2018-01-04T21:09:36Z")
I don’t remember seeing anything about Sergei Milian earlier in the thread, and I missed it in the news, but this is all rather interesting: > **[Trump Org turns over documents to Russia investigations: report](https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/367477-trump-org-turns-over-documents-to-russia-investigations-report/)** > > The Trump Organization has turned over documents related to President Trump’s real estate business to investigators probing Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, according to a ne… > **[Kushner received emails from Sergei Millian — an businessman who was in touch...](https://www.businessinsider.com/jared-kushner-emails-sergei-millian-dossier-papadopoulous-russia-2017-11)** > > Kushner was copied on emails sent to the Trump campaign last year from Sergei Millian, a Belarussian businessman who has worked with the Trump Organization. If Mueller can prove that Millian is Source D or E, Trump is going to have a real bad day. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3445 "2018-01-04T21:14:02Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > From the raspberry-blowing, one is inclined to think of five-and-a-half-year old Edith Ann. Right after she told another tall tale, and ended it with “And that’s the truth (raspberry)”. So yeah, it fits just fine. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3446 "2018-01-04T21:53:33Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I don’t remember seeing anything about Sergei Milian earlier in the thread, and I missed it in the news, but this is all rather interesting: > > [http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/367477-trump-org-turns-over-documents-to-russia-investigations-report](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/367477-trump-org-turns-over-documents-to-russia-investigations-report) > > [Jared Kushner Received Emails From Sergei Millian - Business Insider](http://www.businessinsider.com/jared-kushner-emails-sergei-millian-dossier-papadopoulous-russia-2017-11) > > If Mueller can prove that Millian is Source D or E, Trump is going to have a real bad day. Har. Business Insider let me get about a third of the way through the page before it cut me off for having the audacity to run an ad blocker. Sorry, bubs, not turning that off for anyone, or paying the ransom to continue. I got the sense of it anyway, and I’m sure I’ll be able to fill in the details from other news outlets. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3447 "2018-01-05T01:57:09Z")
I bet Robert Mueller can’t fucking wait to talk to Stephen K Bannon. I’m wondering if the feeling isn’t perhaps mutual: maybe Stephen K Bannon can’t wait to talk to Robert Mueller. I’ve wondered if Bannon was just a crazy bastard or if he’s crazy like a fox. Was he smart enough to be the eyes and ears of what went on in the White House and to limit his exposure, or was he exposed? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3448 "2018-01-05T02:40:08Z")
He’s a shit-disturber, attention is his jones, aggravation his instrument. If no one will come to the press conference of Trump’s bestest friend, maybe they will come for his worst enemy. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3449 "2018-01-05T02:49:12Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Har. \*\*Business Insider let me get about a third of the way through the page before it cut me off for having the audacity to run an ad blocker. \*\* Sorry, bubs, not turning that off for anyone, or paying the ransom to continue. I got the sense of it anyway, and I’m sure I’ll be able to fill in the details from other news outlets. Stop the page loading soon enough and whatever checks for an adblocker never activates. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3450 "2018-01-05T03:09:10Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I bet Robert Mueller can’t fucking wait to talk to Stephen K Bannon. I’m wondering if the feeling isn’t perhaps mutual: maybe Stephen K Bannon can’t wait to talk to Robert Mueller. I’ve wondered if Bannon was just a crazy bastard or if he’s crazy like a fox. Was he smart enough to be the eyes and ears of what went on in the White House and to limit his exposure, or was he exposed? I know a lot of folks are just eating all this stuff from the book up, but I wouldn’t believe a word that Bannon says. He, like Trump, is a self-aggrandizing, ego driven arrogant asshole. Maybe he’s stupid enough to think that getting interviewed by Mueller would be “good publicity”. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3451 "2018-01-05T03:20:49Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I bet Robert Mueller can’t fucking wait to talk to Stephen K Bannon. I’m wondering if the feeling isn’t perhaps mutual: maybe Stephen K Bannon can’t wait to talk to Robert Mueller. I’ve wondered if Bannon was just a crazy bastard or if he’s crazy like a fox. Was he smart enough to be the eyes and ears of what went on in the White House and to limit his exposure, or was he exposed? It looks like Bannon’s backers pulled their money, including the money for his protection detail, in order to get him back on script. One suspects that there are genuine threats to Bannon’s life out there, so I’m not sure that Mueller would have much to offer him to balance out the risk that Bannon takes by going off script again. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3452 "2018-01-05T03:23:18Z")
Mueller can offer a subpoena. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3453 "2018-01-05T07:10:35Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I know a lot of folks are just eating all this stuff from the book up, but I wouldn’t believe a word that Bannon says. He, like Trump, is a self-aggrandizing, ego driven arrogant asshole. Maybe he’s stupid enough to think that getting interviewed by Mueller would be “good publicity”. While true, the people who you would hope will revise their thinking are the people who think of Bannon as one of the few honest men in the world. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3454 "2018-01-05T14:25:57Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Mueller can offer a subpoena. He could put a nice bow on it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3455 "2018-01-05T16:14:23Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I bet Robert Mueller can’t fucking wait to talk to Stephen K Bannon. I’m wondering if the feeling isn’t perhaps mutual: maybe Stephen K Bannon can’t wait to talk to Robert Mueller. I’ve wondered if Bannon was just a crazy bastard or if he’s crazy like a fox. Was he smart enough to be the eyes and ears of what went on in the White House and to limit his exposure, or was he exposed? Maybe he has, and maybe he has been for [awhile](http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/367581-robert-mueller-may-have-a-deep-throat-witness-on-russia). The premise of this article is that if Bannon truly thinks that the Trump/Russia meeting at Trump Tower was “treasonous” (his words) and that Trump himself was likely well aware of it (again, his words), and that anyone aware of the meeting had a responsibility to alert the FBI (again, his words) then why didn’t he himself go to the FBI. Unless he did. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3456 "2018-01-05T16:21:25Z")
You’re assuming that Bannon knew about the meeting at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3457 "2018-01-05T16:25:39Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > You’re assuming that Bannon knew about the meeting at the time. Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3458 "2018-01-05T16:32:38Z")
X-Posted from BBQ thread: Congressman Jolly sent a [tweet](https://twitter.com/DavidJollyFL/status/949133249430745089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2018%2F1%2F5%2F1730051%2F-important-tweet-from-former-Congressman-David-Jolly) this morning mentioning that DC and NY are one party states regarding consent to be recorded. He brings up an interesting point that Mueller can subpoena all the tapes and examine them for statements that conflict or corroborate what was told to investigators. Could be some juicy stuff there. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3459 "2018-01-05T19:16:33Z")
Congress has recommended its first charges. [Against Christopher Steele.](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/05/us/politics/christopher-steele-dossier-judiciary-committee.html?_r=0) ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3460 "2018-01-05T19:18:17Z")
Chuck Grassley and Lindsey Graham just suggested the DOJ charge Christopher Steele with a crime. 1. Russia helps elect GOP politician 2. Steele investigates Russia 3. GOP accuses Steele of criminal behavior Huh. > **[Senate Judiciary Republicans refer dossier author Chris Steele to DOJ for...](https://www.businessinsider.com/dossier-author-chris-steele-referred-to-doj-by-grassley-and-graham-2018-1)** > > GOP Sens. Chuck Grassley and Lindsey Graham sent a criminal referral to the DOJ about Christopher Steele, the author of the so-called Trump-Russia dossier. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3461 "2018-01-05T19:20:01Z")
Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find those RNC emails that for some reason haven’t been released yet. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3462 "2018-01-05T19:23:28Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Chuck Grassley and Lindsey Graham just suggested the DOJ charge Christopher Steele with a crime. > > 1. Russia helps elect GOP politician > 2. Steele investigates Russia > 3. GOP accuses Steele of criminal behavior > Huh. > > [Dossier Author Chris Steele Referred to DOJ by Grassley and Graham - Business Insider](http://www.businessinsider.com/dossier-author-chris-steele-referred-to-doj-by-grassley-and-graham-2018-1) Red Herring #47. (I’m probably underestimating that number.) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/3463 "2018-01-05T19:31:10Z")
Not so much painting herrings red as aiming the stochastic terrorism machine known as Movement ConservatismXAlt-Right at Mr. Steele. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799.md?page=172) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799.md?page=174)