# Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 23, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799 "2017-03-23T00:28:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 208
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4144 "2018-04-13T14:02:35Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > The privilege check might double the length of time, though. That just proves this is all a liberal conspiracy. Liberals are all about checking people’s privilege. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4145 "2018-04-13T15:18:16Z")
Is all the time Cohen has spent on this billable? Not as if Trump would pay, but there is a lawyering principle involved. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4146 "2018-04-13T15:27:26Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > That just proves this is all a liberal conspiracy. Liberals are all about checking people’s privilege. Well done. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4147 "2018-04-13T17:27:34Z")
[Merriam-Webster sees a 60,000% spike in searches for ‘slimeball’ after Trump’s tweet](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/13/politics/slimeball-merriam-webster-spike-cnntv-trnd/index.html). Resident Chump calling anyone else a ‘slime ball’ [sic] is rich with irony that he’ll never understand. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4148 "2018-04-13T21:38:51Z")
Okay, hands up: how many have “Trump Fires Rosenstein” threads ready to go? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4149 "2018-04-13T21:40:50Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Okay, hands up: how many have “Trump Fires Rosenstein” threads ready to go? I would just add it into this one. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4150 "2018-04-13T22:03:04Z")
Makes sense. The odds do seem pretty high. Trump clearly believes he can get away with it. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4151 "2018-04-13T22:08:51Z")
Cohen Under Criminal Investigation! Big headline. Yuge. I dunno but if someone has a no-knock search warrant executed at their home and business I’d think this is pretty obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4152 "2018-04-14T01:53:38Z")
Cohen was in Prague, as reported by Steele: > **[Mueller can prove Cohen made secret trip to Prague before the election: report](https://thehill.com/homenews/news/383123-mueller-can-prove-cohen-made-secret-trip-to-prague-before-the-election-report/)** > > Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team has proof that President Trump’s personal lawyer made a secret trip to Prague during the 2016 campaign despite his denial that he’d ever been there, McCl… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4153 "2018-04-14T02:07:23Z")
“Oh, _that_ Prague? The one in Europe? Sure, I went _there_!”" ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4154 "2018-04-14T02:38:00Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “Oh, _that_ Prague? The one in Europe? Sure, I went _there_!”" “I thought you meant ‘Prog.’ I hate prog rock. ELP? Yes? Rush? Pompous!” (For the record, I, personally, love both Prague and Prog. 😃 ) ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4155 "2018-04-14T03:05:28Z")
More betterer into: > **[Sources: Mueller has evidence Cohen was in Prague in 2016, confirming part of...](https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article208870264.html)** > > EDITOR’S NOTE: Robert Mueller’s report to the attorney general states that Mr. Cohen was not in Prague. It is silent on whether the investigation received evidence that Mr. Cohen’s phone pinged in or near Prague, as McClatchy reported. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4156 "2018-04-14T18:44:21Z")
Post from 10-26-2017… > [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > E.g. all the evidence suggests that the dossier’s accusation that Trump-lawyer Cohen met with Russian officials in Prague is almost certainly false. But if you’re willing to believe that Cohen for some reason flew to a different European country and then travelled by land to Prague such that it wouldn’t show up on his passport, and if you jiggle the timeline a bit, then perhaps you can believe it. If you want to. Some posts age better than others. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4157 "2018-04-14T23:14:22Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > Post from 10-26-2017… > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by Fotheringay-Phipps > > E.g. all the evidence suggests that the dossier’s accusation that Trump-lawyer Cohen met with Russian officials in Prague is almost certainly false. But if you’re willing to believe that Cohen for some reason flew to a different European country and then travelled by land to Prague such that it wouldn’t show up on his passport, and if you jiggle the timeline a bit, then perhaps you can believe it. If you want to. > > Some posts age better than others. Thanks for digging that up. It’s representative of posts all over the internet that treated with extreme scorn the very IDEA that The Dossier could have been correct about anything–with Cohen’s Prague-free passport proclaimed to be Exhibit One. Now, we can count the number of posts acknowledging that the boasting was misplaced, and compare it with the number of posts decrying the dossier: this will be the Integrity Ratio for Trump fans. (My guess: the ratio will approach zero very closely.) ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4158 "2018-04-14T23:39:31Z")
When your “puppet” president bought for a $100k bombs your Middle Eastern ally and kills hundreds of your citizens repelling attacks what have you really accomplished? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4159 "2018-04-14T23:40:07Z")
Taking a step back and looking at how hard the GOP is trying to discredit Mueller, a lifelong member of their own party and legitimate American hero who they were all praising quite recently, is there any doubt that their party is in the last throes of desperation and making their final moves? They know that their attacks on Mueller are disingenuous. They have to. They wouldn’t be making this move if they thought that the investigation might clear Trump, and their party. Their attacks are the best bad move that they have. Other than putting country over party, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4160 "2018-04-14T23:43:52Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Taking a step back and looking at how hard the GOP is trying to discredit Mueller, a lifelong member of their own party and legitimate American hero who they were all praising quite recently, is there any doubt that their party is in the last throes of desperation and making their final moves? They know that their attacks on Mueller are disingenuous. They have to. > > They wouldn’t be making this move if they thought that the investigation might clear Trump, and their party. Their attacks are the best bad move that they have. Other than putting country over party, obviously. It should be noted that it is a select number who are attacking Mueller. Others continue to support him, they’re just quieter and more **firm** about it. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4161 "2018-04-14T23:49:24Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > It should be noted that it is a select number who are attacking Mueller. Others continue to support him, they’re just quieter and more **firm** about it. Maybe. But, support in words is meaningless without action. The members of the GOP have, at best, been neutral on Mueller, with many attacking him directly. And, if we add Comey to the equation, another lifelong member of their party, the [official policy of the RNC](https://www.lyincomey.com/)is to attack him. There are legitimate complaints about Comey, but being too tough on Trump during the election is not one of them. In fact, if I remember correctly, the initial reason for firing him was that he was unfair to Hillary Clinton. Again, not something you’d do if you thought the investigation would clear your leader. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4162 "2018-04-15T00:27:34Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Okay, hands up: how many have “Trump Fires Rosenstein” threads ready to go? Since Rosenstein’s temporary fill-in will fire Mueller, I’ve been trying to come up with some sort of “Muellercranz and Rosenstein are dead” joke. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4163 "2018-04-15T00:32:16Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > When your “puppet” president bought for a $100k bombs your Middle Eastern ally and kills hundreds of your citizens repelling attacks what have you really accomplished? I suspect you really don’t want the serious answer but I will offer one. A Trump presidency has diminished the place of the United States as a leader and a model for the world, and reduces the chances of Western countries staying united against Russian actions in the future. It’s the big game and a few bombs are nothing in it. Think chess … Trump instead of HRC is Russia having control of the middle of the board and both rooks controlling open columns, losing a pawn that you’d likely have lost anyway. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799.md?page=207) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799.md?page=209)