# Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 23, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799 "2017-03-23T00:28:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 250
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4985 "2018-08-24T20:46:45Z")
**Sage Rat** , do you really have to ask why someone under criminal investigation would want to lie? ---
**Author:** ![Epic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e274bd/32.png) [@Epic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epic)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4986 "2018-08-24T20:50:07Z")
as long as the Democrat Party wants America to be a country of open borders, socialism, and 32 genders, Donald J. Trump can do whatever the hell he wants. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4987 "2018-08-24T20:59:21Z")
> [@Epic](#): > > as long as the Democrat Party wants America to be a country of open borders, socialism, and 32 genders, Donald J. Trump can do whatever the hell he wants. Tell us more about this fictional party. Sounds interesting. I’m a member of the Democratic Party, which appears to have nothing in common with your fantasy party aside from a similar (if grammatically correct, unlike yours) name. ---
**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4988 "2018-08-25T02:06:40Z")
> [@Epic](#): > > as long as the Democrat Party wants America to be a country of open borders, socialism, and 32 genders, Donald J. Trump can do whatever the hell he wants. Seriously? I loathe the Democratic Party’s policies on many things, but that doesn’t mean I’m willing to hand the reins of power over to people who have a clear contempt for science as well as the rule of law. Are you seriously telling me that you would have your entirely family killed and you to be tortured until you die to let the current President stay in power? That you would let him drop nuclear bombs on major American cities? To invite the Russian Army to invade us? “Whatever the hell he wants” is insanely broad, and it’s only by using such a broad brushstroke that includes such things mentioned above that are quite evidently against the best interests of yourself and the United States that you are able to justify supporting him. I hope they’re paying you well, because you are obviously not being sincere. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4989 "2018-08-25T03:54:24Z")
Banned name! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4990 "2018-08-25T16:37:50Z")
Well! That was surprisingly quick. He must have really been a sock. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4991 "2018-08-25T16:55:13Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Well! That was surprisingly quick. He must have really been a sock. If so, the use of “Democrat Party” gives me a hint as to whose sock it might have been. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4992 "2018-08-26T12:23:42Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I listed up all of the crimes that I was aware of that Trump has likely or conceivably broken and got 19 different crimes, several with multiple possible counts, in entirely unrelated matters. (I’m hoping to write this up on my blog - we’ll see.) If anyone’s interested, I’m going through them: > **[The Crimes of Donald Trump – Part 1](https://publius2point0.wordpress.com/2018/08/23/the-crimes-of-donald-trump-part-1/)** > > At my count, there are somewhere around 17 separate criminal statutes that I am aware of that the President is plausibly under investigation for, with a pretty decent number of those 17 having mult… > **[The Crimes of Donald Trump – Part 2](https://publius2point0.wordpress.com/2018/08/25/the-crimes-of-donald-trump-part-2/)** > > 42 U.S. Code § 3617 – Interference, coercion, or intimidation It shall be unlawful to coerce, intimidate, threaten, or interfere with any person in the exercise or enjoyment of, or on account… ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4993 "2018-08-26T14:39:46Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > If anyone’s interested, I’m going through them: > > [The Crimes of Donald Trump – Part 1 « Reason for a New Age](https://publius2point0.wordpress.com/2018/08/23/the-crimes-of-donald-trump-part-1/) > [The Crimes of Donald Trump – Part 2 « Reason for a New Age](https://publius2point0.wordpress.com/2018/08/25/the-crimes-of-donald-trump-part-2/) They missed one. I really hope he gets nailed for this one even though it didn’t draw a lot of attention. It deserved more outrage > **[Morning Joe Hosts Accuse Trump of Blackmail](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-morning-joe-mika-scarborough-630306)** > > Joe Scarborough said Trump has a "disturbing obsession" with his "Morning Joe" co-host Mika Brzezinski. And was there any mention of the 2006 Trump Soho criminal fraud ? Although I think they were preparing to charge the kids rather than Trump himself. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4994 "2018-08-26T15:56:46Z")
> [@glowacks](#): > > I hope they’re paying you well, because you are obviously not being sincere. Those two guys in the “Better Russian than Democrat” T-shirts most likely were, and that worries me far more. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4995 "2018-08-26T20:19:37Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > They missed one. I really hope he gets nailed for this one even though it didn’t draw a lot of attention. It deserved more outrage > > ['Morning Joe' Hosts Accuse Trump of Blackmailing, Threatening Them Over 'National Enquirer' Story](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-morning-joe-mika-scarborough-630306) > > And was there any mention of the 2006 Trump Soho criminal fraud ? Although I think they were preparing to charge the kids rather than Trump himself. That’s my blog, so “you” not “they”. I’ll update the 2nd post with the Joe & Mika information. I had googled for examples, but that one didn’t come up and I had only remembered Trump’s tweets about her plastic surgery. Trump SoHo will come up in future blogs as I go through Fraud and Bribery (and maybe others). ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4996 "2018-08-27T01:24:27Z")
Looks like either Cohen doesn’t know anything about Russia, or he’s been told by Mueller to shut up. [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/403718-lanny-davis-tempers-confidence-that-michael-cohen-has-info-on-trumps](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/403718-lanny-davis-tempers-confidence-that-michael-cohen-has-info-on-trumps) > [@](#): > > Sens. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) and Mark R. Warner (D-Va.) last week in a joint statement said they want Cohen to testify again in front of the Senate Intelligence committee. They said Cohen testified he did not know about the Trump Tower meeting until reports emerged in the press. > > Burr and Warner, who are overseeing an investigation into ties between Russia and Trump, said Cohen told the committee he does not want to amend his testimony, the Post reported. Or is there a risk of being jailed for Contempt of Congress or Perjury, or something if he changes his testimony? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4997 "2018-08-31T13:58:02Z")
Chuck Todd thinks Mueller will announce something “big” today. I’m skeptical, but he obviously knows more than I do. Is there any reason Mueller would choose to announce something “big” on Friday before a holiday weekend? Don’t you usually do that when you don’t want people to pay attention? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4998 "2018-08-31T14:14:46Z")
Mueller, being far less petty than I, presumably wouldn’t consider “just to ruin Trump’s Labor Day weekend” a valid reason… ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/4999 "2018-08-31T14:46:04Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Mueller, being far less petty than I, presumably wouldn’t consider “just to ruin Trump’s Labor Day weekend” a valid reason… He might consider the services for John McCain a valid reason to hold back. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5000 "2018-08-31T15:47:11Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Is there any reason Mueller would choose to announce something “big” on Friday before a holiday weekend? I don’t think the idea was that it’s before a holiday weekend, but rather the final day of August. Apparently DOJ guidelines call for avoiding big political impact announcements too close to an election, and the preceding two months are (possibly?) thought to be “too close” for that purpose. So the idea is that if Mueller has anything to announce, it’s likely to be now. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5001 "2018-08-31T17:02:59Z")
"AP sources: Lawyer was told Russia had ‘Trump over a barrel’’ > **[AP sources: Lawyer was told Russia had 'Trump over a barrel'](https://apnews.com/article/4ac772445073491aa7d3ca9e558e0144)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — A senior Justice Department lawyer says a former British spy told him at a breakfast meeting two years ago that Russian intelligence believed it had Donald Trump "over a barrel," according to multiple people familiar with the... > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (AP) — A senior Justice Department lawyer says a former British spy told him at a breakfast meeting two years ago that Russian intelligence believed it had Donald Trump “over a barrel,” according to multiple people familiar with the encounter. > > The lawyer, Bruce Ohr, also says he learned that a Trump campaign aide had met with higher-level Russian officials than the aide had acknowledged, the people said. ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5002 "2018-08-31T17:10:10Z")
I think I might actually pay to see Trump bent over a barrel, but then it might be too similar to the first episode of Black Mirror. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5003 "2018-08-31T18:22:11Z")
Movement on the topic of how Oligarchs ended up in Trump’s inauguration party: > **[Manafort associate sought tickets to Trump inauguration for Ukrainian...](https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/404577-patten-sought-tickets-to-trump-inauguration-for-ukrainian-oligarch/)** > > Sam Patten, the former associate of Paul Manafort who pleaded guilty on Friday to illegal foreign lobbying, sought tickets to President Trump’s inauguration for a prominent Ukrainian oligarch,… Ukrainian, though. Currently unknown if Patten has any connection back to the Trump team, but I’m seconds away from Googling. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5004 "2018-08-31T19:59:29Z")
Patten made a cooperation deal: [http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/404552-new-witness-cooperating-in-manafort-case](http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/404552-new-witness-cooperating-in-manafort-case) Potentially, that was just work to help prosecute Manafort. I’d suspect that he’ll show up in the Manafort trial, next month. It looks like the Ukrainians were members of the pro-Russia party (no surprise). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799.md?page=249) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799.md?page=251)