# Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 23, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799 "2017-03-23T00:28:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5005 "2018-08-31T20:37:50Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> I don’t think the idea was that it’s before a holiday weekend, but rather the final day of August. Apparently DOJ guidelines call for avoiding big political impact announcements too close to an election, and the preceding two months are (possibly?) thought to be “too close” for that purpose. So the idea is that if Mueller has anything to announce, it’s likely to be now.

So, release it on Wednesday. If it’s important, you probably don’t release it on a Friday before a 3-day weekend.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5006 "2018-08-31T21:24:25Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> So, release it on Wednesday. If it’s important, you probably don’t release it on a Friday before a 3-day weekend.

60 days before the election is next Friday… but the “60 day rule” is mostly an invention of [Rudy](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/30/mueller-midterms-russia-probe-election-window-805491).

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5007 "2018-08-31T21:29:05Z")

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Well, it’s about 5:30PM in DC, and my news feed doesn’t include any bombshells. Did I miss something?

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5008 "2018-08-31T21:56:55Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> 60 days before the election is next Friday… but the “60 day rule” is mostly an invention of [Rudy](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/30/mueller-midterms-russia-probe-election-window-805491).

Based on the movement of the polls during the 2016 election, it seems like the general public only has a 2 week memory, before everyone starts to forget everything and opinions return to nothing:

> **[2016 Election Forecast | FiveThirtyEight](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/)**
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> Nate Silver's predictions and polling data for the 2016 presidential election between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

A single month seems sufficient to me.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5009 "2018-08-31T23:43:00Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Based on the movement of the polls during the 2016 election, it seems like the general public only has a 2 week memory, before everyone starts to forget everything and opinions return to nothing:
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> [2016 Election Forecast | FiveThirtyEight](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/)
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> A single month seems sufficient to me.

After all, Trump isn’t on any ballot this November.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5010 "2018-09-03T18:39:00Z")

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Paul Manafort’s daughter wants to change her last name to Bond , her mother’s maiden name

[Paul Manafort’s daughter has filed paperwork to change her last name.](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/paul-manaforts-daughter-has-filed-paperwork-to-change-her-last-name.html)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5011 "2018-09-03T19:07:46Z")

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My name is Bond… Jessica Bond.

Obvious joke made obvious.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5012 "2018-09-03T19:15:07Z")

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reminds me of when Tim McVeigh’s sister changed her last name for obvious reasons.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5013 "2018-09-03T19:23:51Z")

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Got married?

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5014 "2018-09-04T03:07:52Z")

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Adolf Hitler’s sister lived in the US for many years after the war, under the name Wolfe, if I recall correctly.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5015 "2018-09-04T07:44:19Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Chuck Todd thinks Mueller will announce something “big” today. I’m skeptical, but he obviously knows more than I do. Is there any reason Mueller would choose to announce something “big” on Friday before a holiday weekend? Don’t you usually do that when you don’t want people to pay attention?

One thing that might be kept in mind is that, whatever Federal guidelines and norms might be, the State of New York can and probably will do whatever the fuck it wants for the next two months.

News of genuine criminal activity can and does move the polls - and thereby the vote - as the FiveThirtyEight prediction demonstrates (it had gone from 3 in 5 to 7 in 9 as the polls from Trump’s hell week have come in). The Democratic party will notice that and, by virtue of controlling New York State and New York City, they have basically unfettered ability to dump all sorts of stuff into the public sphere at basically any moment.

> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> After all, Trump isn’t on any ballot this November.

I’m pretty sure that he’s in every ballot, this November.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5016 "2018-09-04T23:54:40Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> After all, Trump isn’t on any ballot this November.

> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> I’m pretty sure that he’s in every ballot, this November.

“Metaphorically” doesn’t count when it comes to Department of Justice time-limit guidelines.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5017 "2018-09-05T21:48:16Z")

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Trump has 100 pictures of Mueller hugging and kissing Comey

[http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-news-trump-pictures-mueller-kissing-comey-20180905-story.html](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-news-trump-pictures-mueller-kissing-comey-20180905-story.html)

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5018 "2018-09-06T13:33:55Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Trump has 100 pictures of Mueller hugging and kissing Comey
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> [President Trump claims he has ‘100 pictures’ of Robert Mueller ‘kissing and hugging’ James Comey – New York Daily News](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-news-trump-pictures-mueller-kissing-comey-20180905-story.html)

Does he also have a bridge for sale?

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5019 "2018-09-12T19:01:48Z")

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The Agalarovs paid one of the (Russian) attendees to the Veselnitskaya meeting $1.2m a few days after the meeting:

> **[Investigators looking at suspicious money transfers after Trump Tower...](https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/406252-investigators-looking-at-suspicious-money-transfers-after-trump/)**
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> Federal investigators are reportedly looking into a pair of suspicious money transfers from some of the planners and participants in a 2016 Trump Tower meeting between Trump campaign officials and …

That said, I feel like if this was actually important, it wouldn’t have been leaked.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5020 "2018-09-14T14:40:56Z")

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Manafort takes a plea deal to avoid a 2nd trial. Two of the big networks cutaway from the hurricane for that story, one does not. I think you can figure out which one did not cut away.

> **[Paul Manafort pleads guilty and agrees to cooperate with Mueller investigation...](https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/14/politics/paul-manafort-guilty-plea/index.html)**
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> After months of vowing to fight for his innocence, former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort conceded to committing several federal crimes and agreed to cooperate with the Justice Department, including in special counsel Robert Mueller's...

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5021 "2018-09-14T14:43:46Z")

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Uh-oh. How does one say “Holy shit!!” in Russian. (I would ask my fellow posters not to collude with any actual Russians to find out.)

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5022 "2018-09-14T14:58:34Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Uh-oh. How does one say “Holy shit!!” in Russian. (I would ask my fellow posters not to collude with any actual Russians to find out.)

I think _"Chyort!_" means “Dammit!” or something very similar. Best I can do on short notice, _tovarisch._

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5023 "2018-09-14T15:32:19Z")

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IIRC, “Bozhe moi” means “oh, my god.”

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5024 "2018-09-14T16:11:05Z")

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Includes cooperation, and the investigation paid for itself and then some in civil forfeitures. Good morning.

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