# Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 23, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799 "2017-03-23T00:28:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 253
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5045 "2018-10-11T21:43:12Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Good. This thread was getting thin and with fewer updates. Anyone guessing there will be a breakthrough BEFORE the mid terms? I’m thinking that Mueller is a straight shooter, and would release info, inditements as they are ready. It is typical to not release such info so close to an election. And I’m of the thought that I hope he doesn’t. Democrats/liberals and moderates such as my self are plenty tired of trumps bullshit and will vote. I’d rather not stir up trumps base at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5046 "2018-10-11T22:14:09Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Good. This thread was getting thin and with fewer updates. Anyone guessing there will be a breakthrough BEFORE the mid terms? Releasing information directly before the midterms would affect the election in favor of congressmen favorable to impeachment hearings, which would be a directly political act. As such, I think that Mueller would demur. This is all presuming that Mueller is working on anything relevant to impeachment. At the moment, he seems to be most clearly working on Roger Stone. I don’t think he’ll bother going after Trump for at least another 6 months. If he’s issuing subpoenaes against acquaintances of Stone, that’s probably because he thinks that there’s enough evidence to get (and potentially flip) him - meaning at least 6 months left to go on that. And he only just flipped Manafort, which means following up on any leads that he revealed and verifying that they’re not just BS. So again, at least 6 months for that. To go after the President on genuine, hardcore criminal activity - not just infidelity or whatever - Mueller needs as solid a foundation as humanly possible. With Manafort flipping, presuming that he had the goods, that would probably be enough to go after Trump, but he has to do all the legwork to vet the info first. If he can add Stone in, he might do so if it won’t take too much extra time. But either way, he won’t be ready in under a month. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5047 "2018-10-12T21:33:13Z")
> [@CoolHandCox](#): > > Statement in Mueller filing in the Manafort case, “The government will take custody and control of the real property commonly known as 721 Fifth Avenue.” That’s Manafort’s apartment inside Trump Tower. This was tweeted yesterday > [@Maddow Blog](#): > > The seizure of Paul Manafort’s properties by the U.S. government means We The People now own an apartment in Trump Tower. > > The sign-up sheet is on a clipboard on the wall next to the hat store downstairs. Weekends are going fast. Better yet, I’d like to see it on AirBnB. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5048 "2018-10-12T22:04:52Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Better yet, I’d like to see it on AirBnB. I imagine that it wouldn’t take too terribly long to find some Russian prostitutes willing to urinate on the bed. ---
**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5049 "2018-10-13T15:19:16Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > This was tweeted yesterday > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by Maddow Blog > > The seizure of Paul Manafort’s properties by the U.S. government means We The People now own an apartment in Trump Tower. > > > > The sign-up sheet is on a clipboard on the wall next to the hat store downstairs. Weekends are going fast. > > Better yet, I’d like to see it on AirBnB. I guess the secret Service won’t have to camp out in a trailer anymore. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5050 "2018-10-13T17:39:05Z")
[ol] [/ol] > [@Bookkeeper](#): > > I guess the secret Service won’t have to camp out in a trailer anymore. They won’t have to, but somehow I think they will. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5051 "2018-10-25T20:04:32Z")
Purportedly, Trump was aware in advance that there were stolen goods and that they were hacked by Russia: > **[Mueller probing whether Stone pal knew Clinton emails would be leaked](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna924036)** > > Mueller's team is investigating whether Jerome Corsi knew stolen emails would be leaked and passed information about them to Trump associate Roger Stone. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5052 "2018-10-25T20:21:26Z")
I doubt it for the same reason I doubt that Il Douche had any direct knowledge. Jerome Corsi? A KGB professional would trust _anything_ covert to Jerome Corsi, or Roger Stone? Or Donald, of House Harkonnen, worst of his name… ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5053 "2018-10-25T20:34:39Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I doubt it for the same reason I doubt that Il Douche had any direct knowledge. Jerome Corsi? A KGB professional would trust _anything_ covert to Jerome Corsi, or Roger Stone? > > Or Donald, of House Harkonnen, worst of his name… The KGB mostly targets idiot conspiracy theorists. That isn’t new and, if anything, is one of the best pieces of evidence that Trump has been in bed with Russia for a long time. Note, for example, that Carter Page was completely useless as a suspect, in his testimony, by virtue of being a nut all. You just can’t take anything he says serious. Why not give him the crown jewels? No one will know when he has them and when he doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5054 "2018-10-31T13:15:05Z")
Trump may have already been subpoenaed by Mueller [https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/31/has-robert-mueller-subpoenaed-trump-222060](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/31/has-robert-mueller-subpoenaed-trump-222060) ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5055 "2018-10-31T15:01:17Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Trump may have already been subpoenaed by Mueller > [https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/31/has-robert-mueller-subpoenaed-trump-222060](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/31/has-robert-mueller-subpoenaed-trump-222060) Just read that and came to post it. Here are some relevant quotes from the linked Politico article: > [@](#): > > But now, thanks to Politico’s reporting (backed up by the simple gumshoe move of sitting in the clerk’s office waiting to see who walks in and requests what file), we may know what Mueller has been up to: Since mid-August, he may have been locked in proceedings with Trump and his lawyers over a grand jury subpoena—in secret litigation that could tell us by December whether the president will testify before Mueller’s grand jury. > … > We cannot know, from the brief docket entries that are available to us in this sealed case, that the matter involves President Trump. But we do know from Politico’s reporting that it involves the special counsel and that the action here was filed the day after Giuliani noted publicly, “[W]e’re pretty much finished with our memorandum opposing a subpoena.” We know that the district court had ruled in favor of the special counsel and against the witness; that the losing witness has moved with alacrity and with authority; and that the judges have responded with accelerated rulings and briefing schedules. We know that Judge Katsas, Trump’s former counsel and nominee, has recused himself. And we know that this sealed legal matter will come to a head in the weeks just after the midterm elections. > … ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5056 "2018-11-14T23:49:12Z")
Rick Gates’ sentencing is being pushed back: > **[Mueller asks for delay in Gates sentencing: filing](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/416789-manafort-business-partner-gates-still-assisting-with-mueller-probe/)** > > Former Trump campaign adviser Richard Gates is still cooperating with special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into possible collusion between the president’s 2016 campaign and Ru… This strongly implies that he has information on people beyond Manafort. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5057 "2018-11-21T01:31:08Z")
Trump sent written answers to Mueller today. [Mueller investigation: Trump sends finished written answers to special counsel | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/20/politics/trump-mueller-questions-done/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5058 "2018-11-21T06:10:54Z")
He has the total deluxe Crayola set, but wrote it all out in burnt umber, just to be a dick about it. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5059 "2018-11-21T22:34:28Z")
Rudy G says Mueller might ask more questions on obstruction of justice > **[Rudy Giuliani tells CNN that Mueller is not done with seeking answers from...](https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/21/politics/rudy-giuliani-robert-mueller/index.html)** > > President Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani said Wednesday that special counsel Robert Mueller could still try to seek additional answers from Trump on questions of potential obstruction of justice, but he signaled they will fight any questions... ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5060 "2018-11-24T19:39:18Z")
another guilty plea might be on the way [https://www.wral.com/associate-of-trump-confidant-says-he-s-mulling-a-plea-deal/18016936/](https://www.wral.com/associate-of-trump-confidant-says-he-s-mulling-a-plea-deal/18016936/) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5061 "2018-11-24T19:41:19Z")
God, I’ve been waiting for Corsi to go down since the swiftboat bullshit against Kerry… ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5062 "2018-11-25T21:26:33Z")
Mueller report will be very bad for Trump politically. But it may not lead to criminal charges. According to Alan Dershowitz > **[Mueller report will be 'devastating' for the president: Frequent Trump defender](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mueller-report-devastating-president-frequent-trump-defender/story?id=59393855)** > > Alan Dershowitz said the report will have a strong political impact, but is unlikely to result in criminal charges. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5063 "2018-11-25T21:32:34Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Mueller report will be very bad for Trump politically. But it may not lead to criminal charges. > > According to Alan Dershowitz > > [Mueller report will be 'devastating' for the president: Frequent Trump defender - ABC News](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mueller-report-devastating-president-frequent-trump-defender/story?id=59393855) Dershowitz hasn’t seen the report. Plus, he’s been carrying Trump’s water for quite a while, now. Only Trump partisans could believe that Dershowitz is speaking with genuine objectivity, here. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5064 "2018-11-25T21:38:15Z")
Alan Dershowitz is so full of shit these days he’s picking corn kernels out of his back molars. I used to respect him, but he turned total shill for Trump. Sad. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799.md?page=252) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799.md?page=254)