# Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 23, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799 "2017-03-23T00:28:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 280
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5585 "2019-01-24T05:24:43Z")
Nineteen? Just shows you how deep the conspiracy goes! Hell, Deep State has even corrupted the FBI! The NRA and Infowars are about all that’s left! ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5586 "2019-01-24T11:18:47Z")
Re: Witness Tampering: > **[Michael Cohen Cancels Testimony Before Congress Citing “Ongoing Threats...](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/michael-cohen-cancels-testimony-before-congress-citing-ongoing-threats-against-his-family-by-trump-and-giuliani.html)** > > "Lying to reduce his jail time! Watch father-in-law!" Trump tweeted out last week about Michael Cohen. > [@](#): > > “Due to ongoing threats against his family from President Trump and Mr. Giuliani, as recently as this weekend, as well as Mr. Cohen’s continued cooperation with ongoing investigations, by advice of counsel, Mr. Cohen’s appearance will be postponed to a later date,” Cohen’s attorney Lanny Davis said in a statement Wednesday. “This is a time where Mr. Cohen had to put his family and their safety first.” Holy fucking shit. That’s a really big accusation. A major witness in a criminal case brought forward to testify is claiming that he is postponing his testimony due to threats against his family from the person he was going to testify against. And, make no mistake, [Trump has been threatening his family](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-23/cohen-delays-house-testimony-citing-threats-from-trump-giuliani): > [@](#): > > Trump, who has called Cohen a liar and “rat,” said in a tweet on Jan. 18 that Cohen is “Lying to reduce his jail time! Watch father-in-law!" > > In a Fox News interview last month, Trump said Cohen’s father-in-law “is a very rich guy, I hear.” Referring to Cohen, the president asked, “Did he make a deal to keep his father-in-law out? Did he make a deal to keep his wife, who supposedly, maybe I’m wrong, but you can check it, did he make keep – make a deal to keep his wife out of trouble?" From the slate article, this bit may be of note: > [@](#): > > “The statements by Mr. Trump and Mr. Giuliani, who have accused Mr. Cohen of lying to get a reduced sentence, would most likely amount to sufficient evidence of witness tampering, according to legal experts, though they cautioned that prosecutors would bring such a case only if they viewed the tampering as part of a larger pattern of obstructive behavior,” the New York Times reports. A pattern? Perish the thought. **Ancient Erudite** , instead of talking about a failed candidate who fell out of the public eye over two years ago, maybe you’d prefer to talk about the actual subject of this thread, i.e. the ongoing investigation into our president. How do you feel about this? Is this evidence of criminal activity to you? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5587 "2019-01-24T12:18:19Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Yeah, smoke, what smoke? I can’t see any smoke at all over the blaze of the Trumpster fire. Personally,I was thinking of a Trump Tower ablaze, kind of like [last June](https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-33300187/new-york-fire-breaks-out-at-trump-building), but I like ‘Trumpster fire’ better. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5588 "2019-01-25T11:34:34Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > … > **Ancient Erudite** , instead of talking about a failed candidate who fell out of the public eye over two years ago, maybe you’d prefer to talk about the actual subject of this thread, i.e. the ongoing investigation into our president. How do you feel about this? Is this evidence of criminal activity to you? 🙂 😕 Has _any_ of the Board’s Trumpettes _ever_ addressed _any_ of the criminal charges against the Orange Monster? (Besides usual gibberish like “Sean Hannity tells me that’s Fake News.”) Please _Cite_ if they have. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5589 "2019-01-25T11:40:20Z")
[Roger Stone](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/politics/roger-stone-arrested/index.html) was arrested. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5590 "2019-01-25T12:06:07Z")
Yes, and something troubles me about that… ["Roger Stone](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/roger-stone), an eccentric longtime Republican strategist with a tattoo of Richard Nixon’s face on his back, was arrested Friday on [charges that include obstruction of an official proceeding,](https://www.justice.gov/file/1124706/download)false statements and witness tampering." > **[Trump Associate Roger Stone Indicted In Mueller Investigation](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/roger-stone-indicted-mueller-investigation_n_5b928d30e4b0cf7b003f3321)** > > The longtime Republican political operative was in touch with WikiLeaks and Russian hackers during the 2016 campaign. Troublesome: Can that be true? The tattoo? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5591 "2019-01-25T12:21:12Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Roger Stone, an eccentric longtime Republican strategist with a tattoo of Richard Nixon’s face on his back, was arrested Friday on charges that include obstruction of an official proceeding, false statements and witness tampering." > Troublesome: Can that be true? The tattoo? Yes, according to [Snopes](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/roger-stone-nixon-tattoo/). > [@](#): > > Stone also confirmed that the tattoo was real in a Twitter post: > > YES! My Nixon tattoo mentioned tonight on @allinwithchris is REAL. Many have asked – proof! [pic.twitter.com/9zSfTjc9aA](http://pic.twitter.com/9zSfTjc9aA) > > — Roger Stone (@RogerJStoneJr) February 16, 2017 I clicked on the twitter link, and was informed that the account has been suspended. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5592 "2019-01-25T12:24:10Z")
[Snopes](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/roger-stone-nixon-tattoo/) says it is, and a quick [Google image search](https://www.google.com/search?q=roger+stone+tattoo&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS825US825&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi3iOfZ9YjgAhUJtIMKHWwgCrIQ_AUIDigB&biw=1366&bih=626) seems to confirm it. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5593 "2019-01-25T12:25:37Z")
Well fuck, I guess it’s appropriate then. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5594 "2019-01-25T12:40:03Z")
And the hits keep on coming. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5595 "2019-01-25T12:43:36Z")
How long until the Trump supporters come into to “crow” that arresting Stone just further proves that Trump is innocent because he hasn’t been arrested (yet)? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5596 "2019-01-25T13:34:13Z")
I dunno, but now we’re up to: - His campaign manager - his deputy campaign manager - his lead attorney - his lead advisor - his National Security Advisor (h/t [Shaun King](https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1088783847192432640)) Man, isn’t it weird that so many people in Trump’s immediate sphere are criminals? ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5597 "2019-01-25T13:35:27Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I dunno, but now we’re up to: > > - His campaign manager > - his deputy campaign manager > - his lead attorney > - his lead advisor > - his National Security Advisor > (h/t [Shaun King](https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1088783847192432640)) > > Man, isn’t it weird that so many people in Trump’s immediate sphere are criminals? No collusion! No collusion! #WitchHunt #MAGA #Covfefe 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5598 "2019-01-25T14:21:28Z")
Given **Ancient Erudite** ’s strongly-held belief that lying under oath is bad, I’m sure he’ll be by soon to condemn Roger Stone for doing so multiple times and for attempting to coerce another witness to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5599 "2019-01-25T14:36:20Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I dunno, but now we’re up to: > > - His campaign manager > - his deputy campaign manager > - his lead attorney > - his lead advisor > - his National Security Advisor > (h/t [Shaun King](https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1088783847192432640)) > > Man, isn’t it weird that so many people in Trump’s immediate sphere are criminals? Sarah Sanders still out there this morning claiming that none of these charges have anything to do with the president. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5600 "2019-01-25T14:58:35Z")
But don’t worry, she’ll probably be arrested too, soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5601 "2019-01-25T15:14:20Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > But don’t worry, she’ll probably be arrested too, soon enough. And on her way into her booking she’ll scoff at reporters, telling them how naive they are for suggesting that it has anything to do with Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5602 "2019-01-25T15:15:30Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > [Roger Stone](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/politics/roger-stone-arrested/index.html) was arrested. And following the Grand Jury hearing at which Roger Stone was indicted, [12 sealed indictments were filed](https://twitter.com/jbadomics/status/1088661648137695233?s=21). So, it’s going to be an event-filled January. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5603 "2019-01-25T15:21:46Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > But don’t worry, she’ll probably be arrested too, soon enough. I assume that celebrity bailiffs are frowned upon, but it would be amusing, should she have to testify, to have Jim Acosta hold the bible for her to swear on. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/5604 "2019-01-25T16:09:53Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > And following the Grand Jury hearing at which Roger Stone was indicted, [12 sealed indictments were filed](https://twitter.com/jbadomics/status/1088661648137695233?s=21). So, it’s going to be an event-filled January. Following or preceding? I thought Stone’s was one of those. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799.md?page=279) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799.md?page=281)