# Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 23, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799 "2017-03-23T00:28:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/101 "2017-03-30T16:22:23Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Hey, he got where he is through hard work and dedication.
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> Not _his_, but you know, a few generations ago, there was some hard work.

Someone with darker skin no doubt.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/102 "2017-03-30T16:46:24Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Someone with darker skin no doubt.

Probably got stiffed on pay, too.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/103 "2017-03-30T22:45:15Z")

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[Mike Flynn offers to testify in exchange for immunity](https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/mike-flynn-offers-to-testify-in-exchange-for-immunity-1490912959), Wall Street Journal just reported. He has made this offer to the Senate, the House, and the FBI.

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> WASHINGTON—Mike Flynn, President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser, has told the Federal Bureau of Investigation and congressional officials investigating the Trump campaign’s potential ties to Russia that he is willing to be interviewed in exchange for a grant of immunity from prosecution, according to officials with knowledge of the matter.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/104 "2017-03-30T22:54:10Z")

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**JohnT** you just beat me to it. Was just coming to post the same thing. Now things get interesting.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/105 "2017-03-30T23:03:51Z")

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I hope this sparks a trend.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/106 "2017-03-30T23:21:28Z")

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That sounds like a huge deal, but IANAL. I would assume demanding immunity means that he is willing to admit he was involved in some screwed up shit.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/107 "2017-03-30T23:27:19Z")

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I would assume that he thinks he can be charged with a crime, otherwise, why offer?

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/108 "2017-03-30T23:28:03Z")

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“He has made the offer to the FBI and the House and Senate intelligence committees through his lawyer but has so far found no takers, the officials said.”

Is this a sign that they already have all the information that Flynn could possibly offer?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/109 "2017-03-30T23:30:57Z")

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N/m

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/110 "2017-03-31T00:00:03Z")

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Sing, little birdie, sing!

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/111 "2017-03-31T01:42:25Z")

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It worked for Oliver North

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/112 "2017-03-31T01:58:25Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> “He has made the offer to the FBI and the House and Senate intelligence committees through his lawyer but has so far found no takers, the officials said.”
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> Is this a sign that they already have all the information that Flynn could possibly offer?

Without knowing when the offer was made or what the average turnaround time is for acceptance of such an offer, it might not mean anything at all. They could have sent the offer to the government agencies at the same time as they sent it to the media.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/113 "2017-03-31T02:10:54Z")

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Former CIA head Woolsey said he heard Flynn discussing spiriting Fethullah Gulen out of the US and back to Turkey.

If true, does this expose Flynn to Federal charges? Kidnapping conspiracy?

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/114 "2017-03-31T02:28:42Z")

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[Here](https://www.justsecurity.org/39426/explainer-flynns-request-immunity/) is a legal analysis of Flynn’s attempt to gain immunity.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/115 "2017-03-31T02:56:42Z")

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> [@Fubaya](#):
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> [Here](https://www.justsecurity.org/39426/explainer-flynns-request-immunity/) is a legal analysis of Flynn’s attempt to gain immunity.

Thank you for posting.

These two statements at the end seem contradictory.

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> But the ploy feels desperate, indicating that Flynn may not have much to offer. And the very fact that Flynn’s lawyer is making a play for immunity at this stage suggests that he has some fear that his client faces real criminal exposure.

Time will tell. Hopefully soon, but the signs are that this will drag out.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/116 "2017-03-31T03:04:29Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Thank you for posting.
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> These two statements at the end seem contradictory.  
> Time will tell. Hopefully soon, but the signs are that this will drag out.

They’re not contradictory if Flynn did something criminal, BUT he doesn’t have useful info to nail others (preferably others “higher up.”)

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/117 "2017-03-31T03:14:15Z")

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[Clinton Watts is my new hero (youtube video of Watts’ testimony before the Senate Intelligence hearing on Russian inteference in the election)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgkqW4cJOFQ).

[“Follow the trail of dead Russians.”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNXIEdS6Sc8).

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/118 "2017-03-31T04:13:49Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> These two statements at the end seem contradictory.

I’m not sure why you say that? He’s personally at a great risk of getting hammered. But if he can convince some idiot in Congress that he’s got the crown jewels, he might get immunity from the real crimes he committed in return for telling a sufficiently salacious tale in front of C-SPAN. Who doesn’t love that?

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/119 "2017-03-31T04:21:21Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> [Clinton Watts is my new hero (youtube video of Watts’ testimony before the Senate Intelligence hearing on Russian inteference in the election)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgkqW4cJOFQ).
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> [“Follow the trail of dead Russians.”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNXIEdS6Sc8).

If Lankford ever gives up his job on the Senate, he’d have an easy time finding a job in Hollywood as a voice actor for evil robots. STRONG disconnect between his voice and looks.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/120 "2017-03-31T04:39:42Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> If Lankford ever gives up his job on the Senate, he’d have an easy time finding a job in Hollywood as a voice actor for evil robots. STRONG disconnect between his voice and looks.

It creeps me out to say it, but there is something compelling and attractive about the combination of that voice and looks. Credit to him for being the rare Republican who appears to be working toward getting at the truth in this matter. Other than that, I don’t know a thing about him.

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