# Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians, according to US officials **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 23, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799 "2017-03-23T00:28:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 91
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1803 "2017-08-03T20:34:37Z")
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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1804 "2017-08-03T20:39:51Z")
> **[Exclusive: top FBI officials could testify against Trump](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/3/16084246/mueller-obstruction-case-stronger-trump-surrogates)** > > The acting head of the bureau told top officials to prepare. > [@](#): > > “What you are going to have is the potential for a powerful obstruction case,” a senior law enforcement official said. “You are going to have the [former] FBI director testify, and then the acting director, the chief of staff to the FBI director, the FBI’s general counsel, and then others, one right after another. This has never been the word of Trump against what [James Comey] has had to say. This is more like the Federal Bureau of Investigation versus Donald Trump.” > … > Including Comey, as many as 10, and possibly more, of the nation’s most senior law enforcement officials are likely to be questioned as part of the investigation into whether Trump committed obstruction of justice, according to two government investigators with firsthand knowledge of the matter. Comey’s notes on his conversations could also be used as evidence, according to many reports. > … > Among those who McCabe and other law enforcement officials have privately believed are potential witnesses are six of the highest-ranking officials of the agency: They include McCabe himself; Jim Rybicki, Comey’s chief of staff; James Baker, the general counsel of the FBI; David Bowdich, who as the FBI’s associate director is the agency’s third-highest official; and Carl Ghattas, the head of the FBI’s national security division and a legal adviser to McCabe. McCabe was deputy director of the FBI until May, when he became acting director after President Trump fired Comey. > > Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, and a third senior Justice Department official are believed by law enforcement officials to be crucial fact witnesses in the obstruction probe. Their testimony is likely to support Comey and harm Trump, according to investigators and outside experts. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1805 "2017-08-03T21:22:23Z")
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1806 "2017-08-03T21:28:07Z")
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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1807 "2017-08-03T22:41:49Z")
They are issuing subpoenas. > **[Grand jury issues subpoenas for Trump campaign members as Mueller...](https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/3/1686729/-Special-Counsel-Mueller-impanels-Grand-Jury-issues-subpoenas-for-Trump-campaign-members)** > > While other Trump disasters and mistakes may have taken top spots in the news over the last two weeks, Special Counsel Robert Mueller was not distracted.  > > > Special Counsel Robert Mueller has impaneled a grand jury in Washington to... ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1808 "2017-08-03T22:50:53Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > They are issuing subpoenas. > > [Daily Kos](https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/3/1686729/-Special-Counsel-Mueller-impanels-Grand-Jury-issues-subpoenas-for-Trump-campaign-members) Hmm. I guess Okrahoma will be here shortly to admit that the nothingburger has some meat to it: > [@Okrahoma](#): > > I don’t expect any that are not Flynn (or Carter Page, though he’s too much of an idiot to be charged) related. But if there are any, THEN the breathless revelations of subpoenas would be justified. These are just ho-hum. Also, I’m sure that [this news article](https://www.apnews.com/a250d1088af44a3b8b55275dc97de608) is not a coincidence either. As Comey told us, when a witness is cooperating, they go back and clean up their paperwork. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1809 "2017-08-03T23:39:41Z")
_Cambridge Analytica_! We’li likely hear more about them in the near future. The name itself is a minor masterpiece of PR. Kind of like the opening scene in _Wolf of Wall Street_ with the ad showing the lion roaming through the offices of “Stratton Oakmont”! a name that simply quivers with integrity. Maybe the same guy came up with “Cambridge Analytica” who did “Blackwater” as the name of America’s premier mercenary rental agency. (Beat out “Killers 'R Us”? Dunno.) Probably dubbed Trump the “Blue-Collar Billionaire”. Say what you will about the Forces of Darkness, that is a crystalline example of a malign intelligence! But I digress… ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1810 "2017-08-04T00:47:08Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > sub penis 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1811 "2017-08-04T04:05:39Z")
I wonder how much longer Trump is going to be able to control himself and resist firing Messrs Sessions, Rosenstein, & Mueller. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1812 "2017-08-04T04:12:55Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Hmm. I guess Okrahoma will be here shortly to admit that the nothingburger has some meat to it: Yeah, I wouldn’t hold my breath. Aside: every time I read the thread title, I have a natural reaction: Duh… ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1813 "2017-08-04T07:13:52Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > IANAL, so I don’t know the legal term for “shit’s getting real”. Corpus delicti… ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1814 "2017-08-04T10:52:20Z")
Google translate has the Latin phrase “questus est verus stercore”. The grand jury is or will be issuing subpoenas. One has to assume that Don the Con will get one. How do his lawyers prep him for that? If they’re worth 1/10 of what he’s paying them, they will instruct him to plead the fifth to every question. But they won’t be there. He is so easily baited, he’s going to chatter like a teenage girl and incriminate the bejeezus out of himself. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1815 "2017-08-04T11:06:53Z")
Was it **Okrahoma** or **HurricaneDitka** who kept making the “Charlie Brown kicking a football” references? Because it’s looking increasingly like the football is going to sail through the uprights with Lucy still clinging to it. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1816 "2017-08-04T14:11:26Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Was it **Okrahoma** or **HurricaneDitka** who kept making the “Charlie Brown kicking a football” references? Because it’s looking increasingly like the football is going to sail through the uprights with Lucy still clinging to it. It was me, and I stand behind the reference. Yet another football, and it will again be taken away. Yes, you may get a Manafort or Flynn indictment. Wooptedoo 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1817 "2017-08-04T15:22:22Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > It was me, and I stand behind the reference. Yet another football, and it will again be taken away. Yes, you may get a Manafort or Flynn indictment. Wooptedoo 🙂 They are looking into the Trump family finances and financial ties to Russia and subpoenaing regarding Trump Jrs meeting so they can indict Manafort and Flynn? Also Flynn is going back and cleaning up his paperwork which usually means he is cooperating with the Feds. You know why the Feds make deals with lesser parties in an investigation right? I have the feeling Trump and his family could all be walked out of the White house in cuffs and you’d still laugh it off as another football. Keep laughing. We’ll keep watching this unfold, and it’s actually unfolding much faster than I imagined with a grand jury already convening. We’ll see who gets the last laugh. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1818 "2017-08-04T15:24:49Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > It was me, and I stand behind the reference. Yet another football, and it will again be taken away. Yes, you may get a Manafort or Flynn indictment. Wooptedoo 🙂 When he is in prison, I hope it will be convenient for you to visit him. I’m sure he’ll appreciate your support. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1819 "2017-08-04T15:41:52Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > It was me, and I stand behind the reference. Yet another football, and it will again be taken away. Yes, you may get a Manafort or Flynn indictment. Wooptedoo 🙂 You’re moving the goalposts again. You confidently claimed that there wouldn’t even be subpoenas against these guys, and now you’re conceding indictments. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1820 "2017-08-04T16:20:18Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > You’re moving the goalposts again. You confidently claimed that there wouldn’t even be subpoenas against these guys, and now you’re conceding indictments. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20339935&postcount=867](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20339935&postcount=867) From July 12: “As I said, any **indictment** on something wonky like not registering as a foreign lobbyist for Flynn, or something that happened way in the past like Manafort’s dealings with Ukrainians, or someone in a very minor position - is irrelevant. It won’t hurt Trump or his administration. Even if Mueller (booga!) causes the indictments.” ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1821 "2017-08-04T16:42:04Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20339935&postcount=867](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20339935&postcount=867) > > From July 12: “As I said, any **indictment** on something wonky like not registering as a foreign lobbyist for Flynn, or something that happened way in the past like Manafort’s dealings with Ukrainians, or someone in a very minor position - is irrelevant. It won’t hurt Trump or his administration. Even if Mueller (booga!) causes the indictments.” Everyone, you have got to understand the distinction **Okrahoma** is making. If anyone around Trump is indicted, they are no true Trumpists. If Ivanka herself were indicted for something, **Okrahoma** would argue that it isn’t big news because Donald isn’t even married to her mother anymore, so it is like she is barely part of his family. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799/1822 "2017-08-04T16:44:59Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > It was me, and I stand behind the reference. Yet another football, and it will again be taken away. Yes, you may get a Manafort or Flynn indictment. Wooptedoo 🙂 Dude, we ain’t aiming for the football. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799.md?page=90) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians-according-to-us-officials/782799.md?page=92)