# Trump attacking Amazon

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 1, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583 "2018-04-01T13:30:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/121 "2018-04-08T20:04:53Z")

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Guess whose clothing line is exempt from the new China tariffs?

> **[Ivanka Trump’s clothing company will be spared from tariffs, thanks to her dad](https://thinkprogress.org/ivanka-trump-clothing-tariffs-437840f07b83/)**
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> A convenient omission from the administration's threat of costly new tariffs.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/122 "2018-04-08T20:16:42Z")

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It’s not quite as bad as that headline makes it sound-- All clothing is exempt (or rather, just not included), not just Ivanka’s.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/123 "2018-04-08T20:24:27Z")

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what about clothing sold by Amazon? 🙂

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/124 "2018-04-08T20:37:44Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> It’s not quite as bad as that headline makes it sound-- All clothing is exempt (or rather, just not included), not just Ivanka’s.

Yep. I can hear it now… “But DAAAAaaaDDDD”. Someone is giving these fools some information so they don’t accidentally hurt themselves.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/125 "2018-04-09T00:04:27Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Amazing that our President is misinformed on this topic.

You misspelled “lying”, and it’s not at all surprising, much less “amazing”.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/126 "2018-04-13T11:35:48Z")

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[Trump signs executive order to investigate the Postal Service](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/12/trump-issues-executive-order-to-reform-usps.html)

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@Troy\_McClure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/127 "2018-04-13T12:34:01Z")

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Gotta love this line:

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> “If they raise by 10 percent, Amazon may stay with them. However, postal rates are set by an independent commission, and the president’s task force has no power to change rates. He is likely not aware of this fact,” Pachter said.

Ya think?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/128 "2018-04-13T17:34:08Z")

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I’m sure that that’s one of the universe of things of which Trump is not aware.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/129 "2018-04-13T18:11:10Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [Trump signs executive order to investigate the Postal Service](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/12/trump-issues-executive-order-to-reform-usps.html)

One suspects that this will go the same way as Trumps task force to investigate election fraud. Once the they investigate enough to determine that reality once again didn’t deign to conform to Trump’s version of it, and that the USPS isn’t actually losing money on Amazon, the task force will be dissolved as quietly as possible.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/130 "2018-05-20T22:05:55Z")

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Trump wanted the PO to double the Amazon shipping rates

> **[Amazon briefly hit session low after report that Trump pushed the USPS to...](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/18/trump-reportedly-pushed-usps-to-double-amazons-shipping-rates.html)**
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> Megan Brennan, the first female to hold the role as the Postal Service's chief executive officer, has pushed back on Trump's demands, arguing that the relationship is beneficial to the USPS, The Washin.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/131 "2018-05-20T22:12:17Z")

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It’s not just Amazon, but I’m sure the entire thing was motivated by his fear and jealousy of and opposition to Jeff Bezos.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/132 "2018-05-20T22:31:09Z")

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By happenstance, Trump actually has a point. Sort of. Well, from a particular perspective. At least for the UK. You see Amazon acts as a marketplace for third party non-UK companies. As do Ebay and other similar sites. And when you order stuff from those third parties, for the most part they don’t pay import duty or VAT etc. The volume is such that most escape the attentions of customs officials. Thus they undercut UK competitors. This is a problem.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/133 "2018-05-20T23:51:46Z")

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So people in the UK can have things delivered via Amazon without paying UK duties, do I have that right? If I do, do you think Donald “MAGA America First” gives two shts about it? If he does at all, it won’t be because he feels that the local UK agencies aren’t receiving their taxes owed.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/134 "2018-05-21T01:17:49Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> So people in the UK can have things delivered via Amazon without paying UK duties, do I have that right? If I do, do you think Donald “MAGA America First” gives two shts about it? If he does at all, it won’t be because he feels that the local UK agencies aren’t receiving their taxes owed.

What if the British tax agencies held a conference in a Trump hotel first?

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/135 "2018-05-21T01:21:26Z")

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I encourage Trump to keep attacking the moneyed class and threaten their wealth and status just for having or owning a business with an opinion about him. The more he does, the more likely big Republican donors will tell their pets to pull the plug.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/136 "2018-05-21T06:18:37Z")

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I expect we will soon hear some tortured reasoning from Constitutional scholars. There is a very good reason why this is not anything like abuse of power, and I am eager to hear it. I am not a very imaginative person, and this promises to be wonderful.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/137 "2018-05-21T09:41:58Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> If I do, do you think Donald “MAGA America First” gives two shts about it?

Do you not think that something similar might apply to America?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/138 "2018-05-21T10:06:58Z")

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That depends on which Donnie one talks to. Donnie the candidate believed that skipping out on personal taxes owed proved he was smart. Donnie that is jealous of Bezos may want another hammer to swing against Amazon, but is also incapable of comprehending the details of an issue that is already being discussed in America: online retail purchases and state/local taxes.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/139 "2018-05-21T10:45:08Z")

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would be interesting to see if Bezos sold the Post if that would matter to Trump and his Amazon hatred. Probably not.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-attacking-amazon/811583/140 "2018-05-22T21:36:25Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> would be interesting to see if Bezos sold the Post if that would matter to Trump and his Amazon hatred. Probably not.

Even if Bezos sold the Post, he’d still be a self-made billionaire–a genuine ‘good businessman.’ That would stick in Trump’s craw no matter what.

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