# Trump bail amount **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 24, 2023, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054 "2023-08-24T21:35:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/21 "2023-08-25T18:58:32Z")
> [@Falchion](#): > > > [@chappachula](#): > > > > I thought that if a criminal violates conditions of the bond, he gets re-arrested and sits in jail till the trial… Does he also lose the money? That’s news to me. > > In my state, at least, the bond is only forfeited if the defendant fails to appear. (Although the bail can be revoked for violation of the conditions of release). > > My cursory and uninformed read of Georgia law (Georgia Code 17-6-70) suggest that the same is probably true there as well. Right. There is a big difference between forfeiting bail and having bail revoked. ---
**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/22 "2023-08-25T19:40:40Z")
If you’re considered a flight risk I believe they can.Especially for serious felonies… but IANAL. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/23 "2023-08-25T19:44:27Z")
Except that it probably isn’t his 20k in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/24 "2023-08-25T20:04:38Z")
I confirmed with a California Superior Court Judge (my brother) who said they can absolutely make you surrender your passport a condition of bail. Whether they did so in Trump’s case is anyone’s guess. He owns a plane and can secretly fly out of the country if he needs to. I doubt they would shoot him down even if the feds found out. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/25 "2023-08-25T20:07:39Z")
> [@dolphinboy](#): > > He owns a plane and can secretly fly out of the country if he needs to I couldn’t begin to guess the number of people willing to smuggle their tin god out of the country. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/26 "2023-08-26T00:49:16Z")
Thanks, dolphinboy. I am surprised that the states can confiscate something issued by the federal government. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/27 "2023-08-26T00:50:22Z")
It’s a large airplane. Eighteen guys might want to go with him. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/28 "2023-08-26T01:03:49Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Thanks, dolphinboy. I am surprised that the states can confiscate something issued by the federal government. It’s not confiscation. It’s a request. Remember, the state is under no obligation to offer bail at all. If they do offer it, they can ask for whatever conditions they want for it. You have the option to turn down the conditions they ask for, and just wait in jail. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/29 "2023-08-26T01:23:30Z")
Ah, thanks again. ---
**Author:** ![Dereknocue67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6de8d8/32.png) [@Dereknocue67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dereknocue67)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/30 "2023-08-26T07:02:33Z")
If he wanted to flee, couldn’t Trump use his Russian passport? 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/31 "2023-08-26T12:31:14Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I couldn’t begin to guess the number of people willing to smuggle their tin god out of the country. Or hide him in their basement and pray to him. They could spray paint some lawn furniture gold and he would feel right at home. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/32 "2023-08-26T12:32:57Z")
Can they instead spray paint him gold? Or maybe dip him in gold? ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2023, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/33 "2023-08-27T00:52:27Z")
One problem with his fleeing is that he would have to somehow escape his SS detail. That might not be so easy. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/34 "2023-08-27T15:07:36Z")
I’m actually somewhat reassured by the fact that he has a USSS detail. If the time comes when a judge orders him to do something and he refuses, the judge can then order his guards to bring him to court - with his heels dragging in the dust if necessary. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/35 "2023-08-27T19:07:20Z")
Perhaps he is saving his money for bribes. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/36 "2023-08-28T10:42:28Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > the judge can then order his guards to bring him to court - with his heels dragging in the dust if necessary. uh. Can he. Would the Secret Service obey the judge? ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/37 "2023-08-28T10:48:21Z")
very interesting Q, indeed… **probably worth a new thread!!!** ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/38 "2023-08-28T13:42:06Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > > the judge can then order his guards to bring him to court - with his heels dragging in the dust if necessary. > > uh. Can he. Would the Secret Service obey the judge? They’d better. They are Federal officers bound by oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. I’m sure there’d be appeals and arguments, but at the end of the day, the rule of law includes the obligation to obey lawful court orders. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/39 "2023-08-28T14:12:14Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > It’s a large airplane. Eighteen guys might want to go with him. And he probably won’t even charge them that much! ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054/40 "2023-08-28T14:52:28Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > They’d better. They are Federal officers bound by oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. I’m sure there’d be appeals and arguments, but at the end of the day, the rule of law includes the obligation to obey lawful court orders. Hope so. Make sure they handcuff them first. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bail-amount/989054.md?page=3)