# Trump bans CNN and NYT from press briefing. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 24, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673 "2017-02-24T22:13:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/61 "2017-02-25T03:52:40Z")
> **[Obama Boots Reporters From Conservative Papers](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6156794&page=1)** > > The Obama campaign has booted from its airplane three reporters covering the candidate who work for newspapers that endorsed John McCain. The papers were the Washington Times, Dallas Morning News, and Washington Post. Obama Boots Reporters From Conservative Papers ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/62 "2017-02-25T03:55:31Z")
This is from Julie Mason, a talk show host on NPR radio (and very much not a conservative one) > “Yeah the Obama WH used to selectively invite reporters to gaggles, too. It was wrong then, wrong now” … and [https://twitter.com/juliemason/status/835290505655238656](https://twitter.com/juliemason/status/835290505655238656) “Not comparing it to Fox incident. Obama press office hand-picked attendees for gaggles, which I know because I was excluded often” ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/63 "2017-02-25T03:56:29Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > [Obama Boots Reporters From Conservative Papers - ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6156794&page=1) > > Obama Boots Reporters From Conservative Papers In 2008. During his campaign. From the airplane. Yeah, totally equivalent. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/64 "2017-02-25T03:56:34Z")
Susan Ferrechio, from Washington Examiner: > “Shutting out certain news orgs from gaggles happens regularly on Capitol Hill. Difference is WaPo etc., get access, so they don’t complain” ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/65 "2017-02-25T03:58:43Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > the trump/Luthor thing has been done many times. Here’s just one take. > > [The Many Ways Donald Trump Is a Real-Life Lex Luthor](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/14/the-many-ways-donald-trump-is-a-real-life-lex-luthor.html) I kinda like that in that arc Luthor fell from grace because he just could not help himself to seek revenge on Superman and the justice league even when they (specially Superman) were at the start willing to help the new president. His overreach and hate lead him to crimes that could not be denied so Luthor served fewer than three years as president. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/66 "2017-02-25T04:07:35Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Care to point out where in your link that supports that conclusion? [http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/11/obama-holds-off-record-meeting-with-msnbc-hosts-liberal-pundits-178078](http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/11/obama-holds-off-record-meeting-with-msnbc-hosts-liberal-pundits-178078) “Present at the meeting: MSNBC’s Ed Schultz and Lawrence O’Donnell, Washington Post economics blogger Ezra Klein, Mother Jones Washington bureau chief David Corn, Talking Points Memo editor and publisher Josh Marshall, ThinkProgress editor-in-chief Judd Legum, Atlantic senior editor Garance Franke-Ruta, Salon political writer Brian Beutler and Fox News contributor Juan Williams.” Oh look. Juan Williams. ROTFLMAO. Who’s who in leftist press. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/67 "2017-02-25T04:10:01Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > I think that this is awesome! > > Screw the liberal, lying, fake news MSM. > > They are not media, they are basically a propaganda wing of the Democrat party and they have been colluding for a long time. > > It’s very refreshing to see how much more transparent and how much more honest this administration behaves in contrast to the previous clowns and incompetent corruptocrats. > > Trump should treat them like the enemy that they are. I only see here just ignorance of what was promised by “honest” Donald’s cabinet. > **[The White House Just Pulled A Frightening Move On The Press](https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2017/02/142579/trump-ban-media-outlets-new-york-times-cnn-press-gaggle)** > > In an unprecedented move, outlets like BBC, CNN, and The New York Times were selectively excluded from an off-camera press briefing with Sean Spicer. > [@](#): > > **Last December, Spicer said that the White House wouldn’t ban or limit access to the press.** > > “There’s a big difference between a campaign, where it’s a private venue using private funds, and a government entity,” he said, referencing how the Trump campaign famously blocked several media outlets from their campaign events. > > **He added, “That’s what makes a democracy a democracy versus a dictatorship.”** ---
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/68 "2017-02-25T04:13:27Z")
Obama held secret meetings with his friends in the liberal MSM. _What none of the journalists told readers, because they had promised the White House that they would not, was that their attempts to portray the president’s intentions had followed a lengthy and secret meeting with Mr. Obama the day he delivered the speech._ > **[Calculated Candor Inside Obama’s Off-the-Record Briefings (Published 2016)](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/04/us/politics/calculated-candor-inside-obamas-off-the-record-briefings.html?smid=tw-share)** > > President Obama is the first president to publish visitor logs of the journalists who attend off-the-record discussions meant to promote context and candor. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/69 "2017-02-25T04:13:31Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > [http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/11/obama-holds-off-record-meeting-with-msnbc-hosts-liberal-pundits-178078](http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/11/obama-holds-off-record-meeting-with-msnbc-hosts-liberal-pundits-178078) > > “Present at the meeting: MSNBC’s Ed Schultz and Lawrence O’Donnell, Washington Post economics blogger Ezra Klein, Mother Jones Washington bureau chief David Corn, Talking Points Memo editor and publisher Josh Marshall, ThinkProgress editor-in-chief Judd Legum, Atlantic senior editor Garance Franke-Ruta, Salon political writer Brian Beutler and Fox News contributor Juan Williams.” > > Oh look. Juan Williams. ROTFLMAO. Who’s who in leftist press. He’s from Fox News. Which proves you wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/70 "2017-02-25T04:17:08Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > He’s from Fox News. Which proves you wrong. Uh hu. If Spicer could find a NYT reporter as right-wing as Juan Williams is left, I am sure he would have invited him. Except he couldn’t, apparently. Kinda emphasizes the difference between Fox and NYT maybe? ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/71 "2017-02-25T04:17:18Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > [http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/11/obama-holds-off-record-meeting-with-msnbc-hosts-liberal-pundits-178078](http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/11/obama-holds-off-record-meeting-with-msnbc-hosts-liberal-pundits-178078) > > “Present at the meeting: MSNBC’s Ed Schultz and Lawrence O’Donnell, Washington Post economics blogger Ezra Klein, Mother Jones Washington bureau chief David Corn, Talking Points Memo editor and publisher Josh Marshall, ThinkProgress editor-in-chief Judd Legum, Atlantic senior editor Garance Franke-Ruta, Salon political writer Brian Beutler and Fox News contributor Juan Williams.” > > Oh look. Juan Williams. ROTFLMAO. Who’s who in leftist press. Funny thing - there’s a link in that article > [@](#): > > As I [reported earlier this month](http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/president-obama-off-the-record-099180),Obama has held several meetings with thought leaders from across the political spectrum during his presidency. Let’s just see where that link leads us… > [@](#): > > This month, he met with Washington Post columnist and Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer, Wall Street Journal editorial page editor Paul Gigot, and other influential representatives from the right. You know, I’ve grown used to the fact that you post nothing that isn’t misleading or false, but could you at least try a little harder, **Okrahoma**? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/72 "2017-02-25T04:18:28Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > [http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/11/obama-holds-off-record-meeting-with-msnbc-hosts-liberal-pundits-178078](http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/11/obama-holds-off-record-meeting-with-msnbc-hosts-liberal-pundits-178078) > > “Present at the meeting: MSNBC’s Ed Schultz and Lawrence O’Donnell, Washington Post economics blogger Ezra Klein, Mother Jones Washington bureau chief David Corn, Talking Points Memo editor and publisher Josh Marshall, ThinkProgress editor-in-chief Judd Legum, Atlantic senior editor Garance Franke-Ruta, Salon political writer Brian Beutler and Fox News contributor Juan Williams.” > > Oh look. Juan Williams. ROTFLMAO. Who’s who in leftist press. [Leftist, my ass.](http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130712737) > [@](#): > > Williams responded: “Look, Bill, I’m not a bigot. You know the kind of books I’ve written about the civil rights movement in this country. But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous.” > > Late Wednesday night, NPR issued a statement praising Williams as a valuable contributor but saying it had given him notice that it is severing his contract. “His remarks on The O’Reilly Factor this past Monday were inconsistent with our editorial standards and practices, and undermined his credibility as a news analyst with NPR,” the statement read. > > Williams’ presence on the largely conservative and often contentious prime-time talk shows of Fox News has long been a sore point with NPR News executives. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/73 "2017-02-25T04:21:41Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > Obama held secret meetings with his friends in the liberal MSM. > > _What none of the journalists told readers, because they had promised the White House that they would not, was that their attempts to portray the president’s intentions had followed a lengthy and secret meeting with Mr. Obama the day he delivered the speech._ > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/04/us/politics/calculated-candor-inside-obamas-off-the-record-briefings.html?smid=tw-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/04/us/politics/calculated-candor-inside-obamas-off-the-record-briefings.html?smid=tw-share) I don’t think it shows what you think it does. > [@](#): > > Liberal-leaning columnists from newspapers tend to dominate at Mr. Obama’s secret sessions, but the White House has invited some new-media journalists, and prominent conservatives have attended as well. In 2013, Mr. Obama invited five conservatives to a Roosevelt Room discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/74 "2017-02-25T04:22:25Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > I think that this is awesome! > > Screw the liberal, lying, fake news MSM. > > They are not media, they are basically a propaganda wing of the Democrat party and they have been colluding for a long time. > > It’s very refreshing to see how much more transparent and how much more honest this administration behaves in contrast to the previous clowns and incompetent corruptocrats. > > Trump should treat them like the enemy that they are. You’re becoming repetitive. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/75 "2017-02-25T04:25:10Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I don’t think it shows what you think it does. Spicer also invited ABC and CBS to this gaggle, didn’t he? It shows that the White House does hold “gaggles” where they exclude some media organizations. Just like this time. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/76 "2017-02-25T04:36:52Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Spicer also invited ABC and CBS to this gaggle, didn’t he? > > It shows that the White House does hold “gaggles” where they exclude some media organizations. Just like this time. :rolleyes: I was not replying to your silly points, but to another poster that claimed that the linked article showed Obama inviting only the liberal press on those “secret” meets. Not the case. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/77 "2017-02-25T04:44:35Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > Is it too soon to ask if 45 will be invited to the annual White House press corps dinner? Everything about that will be hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/78 "2017-02-25T04:57:14Z")
Sheesh, there is plenty of shit to flog the Donald over. Me thinks that those on the left should let the grey areas go simple because there is so much black white material available. Don’t give the right wing nut jobs ammo (although that looks pretty tough). BTW, for the first time ever, I subscribed to the NY Times. Vote with your pocket book, baaybee. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/79 "2017-02-25T04:59:34Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Everything about that will be hilarious. Up until the point the Orangeshirts emerge and block all the exits. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/80 "2017-02-25T05:00:48Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > The amazing thing is that there’s not one bad fictional President that trump hasn’t been compared to. Stillson, Scudder, Windrip, Comacho, **Chauncy Gardner**. I keep trying and when I google trump+whoever, someone’s always gotten there first. [nitpick] Chance the gardner/Chauncey Gardiner was never President. [/nitpick] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673.md?page=5)