# Trump bans CNN and NYT from press briefing.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 24, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673 "2017-02-24T22:13:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/81 "2017-02-25T05:15:22Z")

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This was another misstep by a poorly run administration. CNN and the New York Times aren’t going to disappear just because they’re denied access to press briefings. They’re still going to report on the Trump administration. They’ll just be relying more on other sources since they’re cut off from White House press releases. Trump’s just cut himself off from two major venues for releasing his statements.

More importantly, no politician - including Presidents - have ever won a war with the press. Trump has personal charm when he chooses to use it and he should be using it on the press corps to try to win them over. Instead he’s foolishly decided to try to bully them and that’s going to blow up in his face.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/82 "2017-02-25T05:24:04Z")

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> [@China\_Guy](#):
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> Sheesh, there is plenty of shit to flog the Donald over. Me thinks that those on the left should let the grey areas go simple because there is so much black white material available. Don’t give the right wing nut jobs ammo (although that looks pretty tough).
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> BTW, for the first time ever, I subscribed to the NY Times. Vote with your pocket book, baaybee. 🙂

I agree with the second - I subscribed to the NYT and the Washington Post for the first time myself, a few weeks ago.  
As far as the first…nah, flog Donald over _everything_. Every misstatement, lie, abuse of power, fraud - EVERYTHING!  
There’s enough of us. Plenty of press to cover every aspect of Trump and his criminal gang, plenty of honest people to point and laugh, or scream in anger.  
Bytes are cheap - I’ll keep on using them, and other methods. So will a lot of other folks.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/83 "2017-02-25T05:33:42Z")

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> [@Blinkyandpinky](#):
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> I think that this is awesome!
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> Screw the liberal, lying, fake news MSM.
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> They are not media, they are basically a propaganda wing of the Democrat party and they have been colluding for a long time.
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> It’s very refreshing to see how much more transparent and how much more honest this administration behaves in contrast to the previous clowns and incompetent corruptocrats.
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> Trump should treat them like the enemy that they are.

I think after a couple of weeks, everyone here is familiar with your unabashed cheerleading for Trump and your peculiar ideas on the media. You really believe that you are getting the whole unvarnished truth on anything at all from the Trump administration, and that members of the press that the administration disagrees with should be shut out from reporting? If so, that is quite simply a ridiculous position to take.

Nevertheless, if that is your position, fair enough. You have made a number of assertions. Assertions, however, are not an argument. What you need to do now is provide some evidence that your assertions are correct. After all, you are just some mook on the Internet. What, specifically, makes any of your opinions of value to anyone else?

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/84 "2017-02-25T05:51:53Z")

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**El\_Kabong** , I’m not convinced that he’s not a real-life friend of mine. This was in my Facebook feed earlier:

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> Today CNN was not allowed at a white house news event. I think that was the correct line of action. When your a father you dont reward unruly behavior. Trump is having to take the father role because this entire generation is nothing more than unruly children that feel entitled to everything they want and cry loudly when they dont get their way. Keep up the great work President Trump! You have our support!

That was a cut-and-paste. All misspellings and grammar errors appeared in the original post.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/85 "2017-02-25T06:05:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> this entire generation is nothing more than unruly children that feel entitled to everything they want and cry loudly when they dont get their way

As I’ve said before, the conservative media and the people who parrot them have this weird cognitive dissonance thing going on about voter dissatisfaction.

When white voters are angry at **Democratic** politicians, they’re “the American people” being unfairly slighted and disrespected by contemptuous out-of-touch elites.

But when white voters are angry at **Republican** politicians, they’re ignorant spoiled “unruly children” throwing tantrums because they “feel entitled to everything they want”.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/86 "2017-02-25T06:09:44Z")

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Yeah, my response to him was a paraphrase of that point when you made it earlier.

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/87 "2017-02-25T06:28:59Z")

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Trump knows more damaging revelations will be coming out about the Russia scandal, so he wants to pre-emptively discredit the news outlets in the eyes of Republican voters.

He has to make sure that no more than a few Republican senators break ranks, otherwise he ends up in prison.

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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/88 "2017-02-25T06:38:16Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> More importantly, no politician - including Presidents - have ever won a war with the press.

Is this really true?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/89 "2017-02-25T06:39:03Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> The amazing thing is that there’s not one bad fictional President that trump hasn’t been compared to. Stillson, Scudder, Windrip, Comacho, Chauncy Gardner. I keep trying and when I google trump+whoever, someone’s always gotten there first.

The amazing thing is that he’s been compared to every bad fictional president and several real dictators and he’s the one who has been found wanting.

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/90 "2017-02-25T06:57:29Z")

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> **[Every outlet WH banned from press briefing is chasing stories on Trump's...](https://americanindependent.com/every-outlet-wh-banned-from-press-briefing-is-chasing-stories-on-trumps-russia-ties/)**
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> News outlets banned from the White House press gaggle all have one thing in common: They have all broken or urged the pursuit of major stories about the Trump team’s illicit relationship with Russian intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/91 "2017-02-25T07:40:29Z")

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Can’t wait to see Melissa McCarthy’s take on this.

Someone earlier asked if there had been any walkouts or boycotts by other outlets in response. Sorry if I missed it, but _The Wall Street Journal_ says they’ll boycott from now on if it happens again.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/92 "2017-02-25T07:44:26Z")

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Regarding Trump’s attempts to demonize the journalists he doesn’t like, it takes a genius to burn those bridges in an effort to…what? Get them to stop digging and investigating? No, Trump and his team are \*not \*outsmarting the press here.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/93 "2017-02-25T07:48:14Z")

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This is not going to end well for Trump.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/94 "2017-02-25T07:55:01Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> This is not going to end well for Trump.

Glad to hear that.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/95 "2017-02-25T07:57:39Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> The US is really just a stone’s throw away from being a wealthier, nuclear armed North Korea.

Quoted for truth. I honestly, without exaggeration, believe this to be true.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/96 "2017-02-25T08:01:42Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Regarding Trump’s attempts to demonize the journalists he doesn’t like, it takes a genius to burn those bridges in an effort to…what? Get them to stop digging and investigating? No, Trump and his team are \*not \*outsmarting the press here.

I don’t believe 45 is smart but a case can be made that it diverts the press from reporting on what he doesn’t want them to report on. Were the press even smarter, they would ignore reporting on the ban and dig deeper into his lies and things he wishes they wouldn’t report on.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/97 "2017-02-25T08:05:07Z")

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> [@White SIFL](#):
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> I don’t believe 45 is smart but a case can be made that it diverts the press from reporting on what he doesn’t want them to report on. Were the press even smarter, they would ignore reporting on the ban and dig deeper into his lies and things he wishes they wouldn’t report on.

Better yet, report on the ban _and_ continue to dig, which appears to be what they’re doing. Really, why do people act as if they can’t do both?

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/98 "2017-02-25T08:14:35Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> Better yet, report on the ban _and_ continue to dig, which appears to be what they’re doing. Really, why do people act as if they can’t do both?

Don’t put words in my mouth. In any event a quick scan of topical news sites reveals more hits for the ban story than the press release they were banned from.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/99 "2017-02-25T08:23:13Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> Better yet, report on the ban _and_ continue to dig, which appears to be what they’re doing. Really, why do people act as if they can’t do both?

Or won’t. Trump is the gift that just keeps on giving, like herpes.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bans-cnn-and-nyt-from-press-briefing/780673/100 "2017-02-25T10:40:50Z")

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So, in short, this is fake news. This wasn’t a briefing to the full press corps, and the organisations were not banned but not invited in the first place, and the practice of selective briefing is not new.

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