# "Trump blames Biden's D.E.I. policy for air crash" (NY headline)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
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**Created:** [January 30, 2025, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-blames-bidens-d-e-i-policy-for-air-crash-ny-headline/1013632 "2025-01-30T18:41:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-blames-bidens-d-e-i-policy-for-air-crash-ny-headline/1013632/101 "2025-01-31T21:25:10Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> When Trump gives a televised address from the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office, behind him you can see pictures of his (several) lovely family(ies). Midst those pictures sits a brass placard that reads, simply, “The Buck Stops With The Black Guy.”

I thought DJT was too smart for that. Are you certain?

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-blames-bidens-d-e-i-policy-for-air-crash-ny-headline/1013632/102 "2025-01-31T21:26:29Z")

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I’m nowhere near as _certain_ as I was _sarcastic._

Apologies for not demarcating it as such.

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> I thought DJT was too smart

And that’s where you went wrong. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-blames-bidens-d-e-i-policy-for-air-crash-ny-headline/1013632/104 "2025-01-31T21:59:54Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> I think DEI is widely misunderstood. It is not about hiring a _less_ qualified woman (gay, whatever) over a more qualified straight white male Protestant, but it is about hiring the _more_ qualified person over the less qualified straight white male Protestant. Trump has demonstrated richly what can happen if you ignore quality, in this case to hire sycophants.

And of course hiring only sycophants shrinks the pool of potential candidates radically (especially if the sycophants must meet the ‘straight white Christian male’ standard).

Shrinking the pool of candidates is a real issue with air-traffic controllers. As has been mentioned in the thread, there have been persistent shortages of people willing (and able) to do the job.

A fair comment on the DEI versus shrunken-pools-of-candidates issue:

> [@](#):
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> … sometimes what Trump et al. see as instruments of social engineering are actually recruitment tools. This is almost certainly the case in the military, which has a hard enough time convincing people to sign up as is. The MAGAs seem not to have realized that making the military seem welcoming to women or LGBT people might be more about the numbers than about “cultural Marxism,” whatever that is. …

Of course all this goes completely over the heads of people like Hegseth, Duffy, and Vance (not to mention Donald himself).

> **[Trump’s Plane Crash Response Is as Cheap as You’d Expect](https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trumps-plane-crash-response-is-as)**
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> Why would a complete lack of evidence get in the way of a good scapegoat?

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-blames-bidens-d-e-i-policy-for-air-crash-ny-headline/1013632/105 "2025-01-31T22:05:35Z")

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Though the study is 20+ years old, I would argue that _this_ is what DEI is really about:

> **[Are Emily and Greg More Employable than Lakisha and Jamal? A Field Experiment...](https://www.nber.org/papers/w9873)**
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> Founded in 1920, the NBER is a private, non-profit, non-partisan organization dedicated to conducting economic research and to disseminating research findings among academics, public policy makers, and business professionals.

> We perform a field experiment to measure racial discrimination in the labor market. We respond with fictitious resumes to help-wanted ads in Boston and Chicago newspapers. To manipulate perception of race, each resume is assigned either a very African American sounding name or a very White sounding name. The results show significant discrimination against African-American names: White names receive 50 percent more callbacks for interviews. We also find that race affects the benefits of a better resume. For White names, a higher quality resume elicits 30 percent more callbacks whereas for African Americans, it elicits a far smaller increase. Applicants living in better neighborhoods receive more callbacks but, interestingly, this effect does not differ by race. The amount of discrimination is uniform across occupations and industries. Federal contractors and employers who list Equal Opportunity Employer’ in their ad discriminate as much as other employers. We find little evidence that our results are driven by employers inferring something other than race, such as social class, from the names. These results suggest that racial discrimination is still a prominent feature of the labor market.

It’s an effort to _end_ the default presumption: that straight, white, cis, God-fearing males are _competent_ while all others are presumed _incompetent_.

Think the US has changed dramatically since that study was conducted?

Not me.

“The arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice.”

–The Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. (questionable attribution)

It seems like the main focus of MAGA is to bend it back.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-blames-bidens-d-e-i-policy-for-air-crash-ny-headline/1013632/106 "2025-01-31T22:09:06Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The MAGAs seem not to have realized that making the military seem welcoming to women or LGBT people might be more about the numbers than about “cultural Marxism,” whatever that is.

We know what “cultural Marxism” is . . . _THE JEWS_.

> **[Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory)**
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> "Cultural Marxism" refers to a far-right antisemitic conspiracy theory that misrepresents Western Marxism (especially the Frankfurt School) as being responsible for modern progressive movements, identity politics, and political correctness. The conspiracy theory posits that there is an ongoing and intentional academic and intellectual effort to subvert Western society via a planned culture war that undermines the supposed Christian values\[note 1\] of traditionalist conservatism and seeks to re...

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-blames-bidens-d-e-i-policy-for-air-crash-ny-headline/1013632/107 "2025-01-31T22:29:30Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Of course all this goes completely over the heads of people like Hegseth, Duffy, and Vance (not to mention Donald himself).

Disagree. Preferential policies, whatever you call them, are a gift to authoritarian leaders, including [Narendra Modi](https://www.thehindu.com/elections/lok-sabha/modi-keeps-up-reservation-rhetoric-says-congress-wants-to-give-sc-st-quotas-to-people-who-practice-vote-jihad/article68207436.ece) and Donald Trump. MAGAville will bring this up over and over, whether true or not, and even though [they themselves sometimes did it](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/20/trump-vows-to-nominate-a-woman-for-us-supreme-court-vacancy-within-a-week), because their heads correctly tell them that this issue works for them politically.

Trump’s D.E.I. bashing will mitigate the approval polling hit he is likely to take from tariffs.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-blames-bidens-d-e-i-policy-for-air-crash-ny-headline/1013632/108 "2025-01-31T22:42:24Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> We know what “cultural Marxism” is . . . _THE JEWS_.

Oh, yes, that’s a strain that Donald is using to divide Americans (aside from the likelihood that he actually believes it, himself). “The Great Replacement Theory,” so far as I understand it, is based on Evil Jews planning to harm Real People (i.e. the aforementioned straight white Christians).

And it’s all tied in with turning “D.E.I.” into a snarl term.

> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Disagree. Preferential policies, whatever you call them, are a gift to authoritarian leaders,

No disagreement, since I never claimed that Donald _ **wasn’t** _ profiting by using D.E.I. as a scapegoat and means of peopling his government with sycophants. Of course he is profiting, and as you point out (basically), following the authoritarian playbook.

“D.E.I” has become far too useful a way of being quite openly racist/sexist/etc. without using the usual terminology of racism/sexism/etc., to ever be given up by the right-wing extremists in charge of our government.

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Shrinking the pool of candidates is a real issue with air-traffic controllers. As has been mentioned in the thread, there have been persistent shortages of people willing (and able) to do the job.

Speaking of trouble getting air traffic controllers:

> **[California airport control tower set to go dark by end of week after air...](https://abc7.com/post/california-airport-sfo-could-lose-air-traffic-controllers-go-dark-amid-pay-dispute/15850567/)**
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> Just miles away from San Francisco International Airport, the air traffic control tower at the smaller San Carlos Airport is set to go dark this Saturday.

> **[California airport could lose all air traffic controllers this week](https://www.newsweek.com/san-carlos-airport-california-air-traffic-control-2024095)**
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> If San Carlos Airport loses its air traffic controllers, and air traffic towers are forced to go unmanned, it could create safety issues.

This story says that the parties reached a last-minute agreement that resolved the crisis:

[https://www.sfgate.com/travel/article/bay-area-airfield-near-sfo-escapes-air-traffic-20067800.php](https://www.sfgate.com/travel/article/bay-area-airfield-near-sfo-escapes-air-traffic-20067800.php)

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Speaking of trouble getting air traffic controllers:

Maybe Donald owns stock in Greyhound…? (Not that there weren’t ATC shortages before, as mentioned. But all the chaos about Loyalty Oaths and DEI and Trump-promises of buy-outs for those who resign and the firing of the FAA head because he objected to Elon blowing up rockets…that _ **can’t** _ be helping.)

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> (aside from the likelihood that he actually believes it, himself)

Given the many things Donny has said about the Jews that are straight up anti-Semitic tropes there really can’t be any doubt that Trump is an anti-Semite.

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Yes, that’s my strong impression, too.

(Of course his defenders always trot out ‘but his daughter married a Jew so he CAN’T be anti-Semitic’—as if that made any sense.)

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-blames-bidens-d-e-i-policy-for-air-crash-ny-headline/1013632/113 "2025-01-31T22:58:29Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> President Joe Biden signed the Federal Aviation Administration reauthorization bill into law in May 2024. The Transportation Department began awarding new slots this past December. …

So, a Bill Sponsored by a Republican- Sam Grave- and passed by a GOP House -is Bidens fault as he signed it?

And the bill had a WHOLE lot more than expanding slots at the DC airport.

> **[PLAW-118publ63.pdf](https://www.congress.gov/118/plaws/publ63/PLAW-118publ63.pdf)**
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Here is what is basically did- _The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Reauthorization Act of 2024 (Public Law 118-63) was signed into law on May 16, 2024. The bill reauthorizes the FAA for five years, through Fiscal Year 2028._ Why would Joe Veto that?

However, the following things did occur during trumps administration- The Director of the FAA was fired. trump announced a hiring freeze on new controllers. The Aviation Advisor Safety Council was disbanded. Controllers- along with other Federal employees- offered a buyout.

> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> Wow, that is quiet the stretch. That bill was not specifically to authorize the additional slots ar Reagan - that is addressed in one page of a 409 page bill. Specifically starting on page 163 and ending on page 164, tucked between section 501 “ESTABLISHMENT OF OFFICE OF AVIATION CONSUMER PROTECTION” and section 503 “Refunds for cancelled or significantly delayed or changed flights”.
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> Plus the bill passed the house 387-26 and the senate 88-4 - way beyond veto-proof majorities.

Right.

> [@wguy123](#):
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> It’s still Biden’s fault for NOT disregarding the overwhelming support of the House & Senate on this bill.
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> Sheesh. Trying to put this on Biden is a HUUUGE stretch. What about the 475 other Congress members that voted for it?

Yep. And it was GOP sponsored.

> [@wolf\_meister\_lord](#):
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> It’s hard to believe that we have elected such a socially inept, politically ignorant, and intellectually moronic buffoon as the U.S. President … TWICE!!!

Eggs were REALLY expensive, dontchaknow? 🙄

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I have seen some people on Facebook blame DJT for firing the head of FAA, but this had nothing to do with it all.

More than the fact Joe signed a GOP bill with massive bipartisan support.

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> (Of course his defenders always trot out ‘but his daughter married a Jew so he CAN’T be anti-Semitic’—as if that made any sense.)

Also, ‘He has Jew lawyers and he hires Jews to handle his money so he CAN’T be anti-Semitic!’  
As if those two things aren’t straight from _Anti-Semitism for Dummies_.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
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Absolutely.

It seems pretty clear that he was raised to be a bigot and, unsurprisingly, continued to be a bigot throughout the decades. People like that never re-think their assumptions.

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> This makes no fucking sense at all, unsurprisingly. What does an EO accomplish?

I think Trump has gotten it into his head that EO’s can make things happen even when they can’t. Ditto memos and all those other sorts of short-form quick documents.

> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> (Of course his defenders always trot out ‘but his daughter married a Jew so he CAN’T be anti-Semitic’—as if that made any sense.)

> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Also, ‘He has Jew lawyers and he hires Jews to handle his money so he CAN’T be anti-Semitic!’  
> As if those two things aren’t straight from _Anti-Semitism for Dummies_.

Bigots frequently distinguish between “their” _[fill in the blank]_ and the run-of-the-mill all-those-other-_[fill in the blank]_. They’re still bigots.

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Given the many things Donny has said about the Jews that are straight up anti-Semitic tropes there really can’t be any doubt that Trump is an anti-Semite.

The thing about Trump is that his sense of morality is so twisted that he’s actually a philosemitic bigot. He thinks that Jews hoard money and control Hollywood and are all loyal to Israel first and foremost, but he thinks those are good qualities about them and admires them for it.

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Bigots frequently distinguish between “their” _[fill in the blank]_ and the run-of-the-mill all-those-other-_[fill in the blank]_. They’re still bigots.

I always think of those folks as Juror #10s.  
Look, you know how these people _lie!_ It’s _born_ in them! I mean, what the heck? I don’t have to tell you! They don’t know what the truth _is!_ And lemme tell ya: they don’t need any real big reason to kill someone, either! No _sir!_ They get drunk! Oh, they’re real big drinkers, all of ‘em - you know that - and bang: someone’s lyin’ in the gutter! Oh, nobody’s blaming them for it. That’s the way they are, by nature! You know what I mean? _Violent!_ Human life don’t mean as much to them as it does to us! Look, they’re lushing it up and fighting all the time and if somebody gets killed, so somebody gets killed! They don’t care!  
 **Oh, sure, there are some good things about 'em, too! Look, I’m the first one to say that!**

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Turns out the “DEi” program Trump has been blaming for the crash was initiated during the presidency of (checks notes) Donald Trump.

> **[Trump Blamed Democrats for Causing DC Plane Crash With DEI Program He Himself...](https://www.latintimes.com/trump-blamed-democrats-causing-dc-plane-crash-dei-program-he-himself-launched-first-term-report-574198)**
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> President Donald Trump blamed the plane crash in Washington, DC, on a diversity, equity and inclusion program he actually launched himself in his first term

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2025, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-blames-bidens-d-e-i-policy-for-air-crash-ny-headline/1013632/120 "2025-02-01T00:33:02Z")

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Will Biden’s reign of terror in the sky never end?

> [@1/31/2025: Small plane crashes in residential neighborhood in Philadelphi](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1-31-2025-small-plane-crashes-in-residential-neighborhood-in-philadelphi/1013699):
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> There is very sketchy information, because it just happened, but there are already multiple known casualties. The first story I heard said it was near a shopping mall, and maybe it was but some houses are on fire.

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