# Trump bloody after shots fired at a Trump Rally: Jul 13, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [July 13, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162 "2024-07-13T22:13:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/182 "2024-07-13T23:55:20Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> They are no joke. But they have to be right every minute every day. The bad guy has to be lucky once.

Yeah, if someone wants to get you they will. Maybe stick Trump in a little bulletproof car like the Pope. Also makes me sad that an emergency room doctor is a MAGAnut, but I’m happy he was there to help.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
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> [@bobot](#):
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> If Republicans want to turn this into a “they started it” shitshow, I believe Paul Pelosi should be consulted. Fuck me, Trump even taunted the Pelosis following that attack.

And as for “bullseye” comments, I believe that was first introduced as legitimate political discourse back in the Sarah Palin era, when she put out a poster with Gabbie Giffords’ face in a bullseye. Gabbie, as you’ll remember, ended up getting shot in the head by a disturbed individual.

> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> I’m watching footage. I don’t see a big flag on a boom. Anywhere. Did Don Jr. have the photo manipulated?

That picture does look way too much like the Iwo Jima one to be a coincidence.

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> CBS was showing footage of what appeared to be a body on a nearby rooftop. No idea how far that was from the stage.

If that’s where the shooter was, that doesn’t excuse the failure of security; the Secret Service should ensure any rooftop with a line of fire to the stage is clear of threats. That’s just plain common sense even a layperson like me can understand. High-powered rifle shots can travel really, really far.

ETA: Hell, any building with windows affording a sniper post should be secured before the rally. Texas Book Depository ring any bells?

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/185 "2024-07-14T00:00:15Z")

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Maybe someone set off firecrackers right before the dude climbed up…but that seems fairly smart for your usual assassin

As for alphabet agency competence…remember the Marathon guy hid under a fucking boat cover that no one bothered to look under.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> > [@Loach](#):
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> > They are no joke. But they have to be right every minute every day. The bad guy has to be lucky once.
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> Yeah, if someone wants to get you they will. Maybe stick Trump in a little bulletproof car like the Pope. Also makes me sad that an emergency room doctor is a MAGAnut, but I’m happy he was there to help.

They also can’t order their protectee. They can counsel that it’s not possible to fully protect them in a certain area but they can’t make him not go.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/187 "2024-07-14T00:08:10Z")

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Seems to me this is a golden opportunity to show up the failure of Trump’s gun policy. It’s so easy to get a gun that even his own rallies aren’t safe! If good guys with guns can’t stop a psycho from nearly putting a bullet in a president, how safe are you?

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/188 "2024-07-14T00:10:51Z")

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Only Republicans can do that with impunity, unfortunately. Democrats who try will be widely criticized without any care for hypocrisy.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/189 "2024-07-14T00:12:27Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Seems to me this is a golden opportunity to show up the failure of Trump’s gun policy.

He never had a gun policy. In fact, trump banned more guns than Obama and Biden together. trump was very happy to get the support of the NRA of course.

At least the “Biden should drop out” headlines will be gone.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/190 "2024-07-14T00:15:03Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Not sure why you find the debate performance comparable to this, myself.

I didn’t draw that comparison. But to clarify, I do not see Biden’s debate performance as the existential problem. It’s concerning, but manageable. The existential problem is the Democrats’ uselessness in coming together to manage it. A major intra-party split like this, so close to the election, doesn’t bode well for whatever other surprises may come down the pipeline.

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Biden is speaking now

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/192 "2024-07-14T00:18:13Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> Unless Melania was the shooter. 🤞

She’s likely busy checking her prenup. I wonder where she is? Haven’t seen anything about that yet.

> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Candidates need to be protected better. Crazy people out there.

That’s easy to say but very hard to do. Candidates generally like and want to be in front of audiences and meet people for obvious reasons. It’s hard to reconcile that desire and security.

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> He never had a gun policy

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1756101980307771782?lang=en>

Just run that clip along with headlines from this shooting.

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Not for nothing, but Twitter is a dumpster fire in a train wreck right now.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/195 "2024-07-14T00:19:22Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> How did the shooter manage to get a gun into what should have been a rigorously secured area?

I just read a story that said the shooter was outside the rally area.  
[https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/election-biden-trump-07-13-24/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/election-biden-trump-07-13-24/index.html)

## Shooter was outside of venue at Trump rally, multiple law enforcement sources say

_From CNN’s Whitney Wild, Evan Perez and Ryan Young_

_Three law enforcement sources confirm the shooter was outside the venue at former President Donald Trump’s rally in Pennsylvania._

_Two of those sources say the shooter was on a roof, outside of the venue. Multiple law enforcement sources have referred to this individual as a sniper, although additional details about that are not clear._

> [@Smapti](#):
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> Just run that clip along with headlines from this shooting.

trump banned bump stocks. SCOTUS overruled him.

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Line of sight.

That excuse won’t get anybody very far, if offered up.

ETA: Hey, @kayaker How far from you is this place?? Your side of the state, even??

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Biden is speaking now

I think he did quite well.

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If I had any hope that it’d make anyone think differently, I’d say that liberals just need to repeat over and over that this is a false flag operation to boost Trump.

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After what happened with Alex Jones, I don’t think that would be a good idea.

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Oh, no, I’d never suggest the victims aren’t real, just that this was planned by MAGA to pin on liberals.

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No, it’s a legit photo, and I’m afraid it’s going to reach “iconic” status. A bloodied Trump with fist raised and American flag and blue skies behind him? Very memorable image that will trickle to even the lowest-information voters.

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