# Trump bloody after shots fired at a Trump Rally: Jul 13, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [July 13, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162 "2024-07-13T22:13:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/282 "2024-07-14T01:52:13Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> There’s no conspiracy theory to be had here

Antifa. Biden ordered them. Biden needed the supreme court to say he was immune before ordering the hit.

You know the crazy will come out of the woodwork.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/283 "2024-07-14T01:53:06Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> > [@DaveUnknown](#):
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> > w on the news they’re putting in new ammo vending machines in grocery stores. Wow
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> It would be good to see a cite for this. Which news?

It’s in the Stupid Gun News thread. I’m off to find the post. ETA: [Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2) - #1741 by Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/1741)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/284 "2024-07-14T01:54:50Z")

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Here ya go.

# Gun Ammunition Vending Machines Installed at Grocery Stores in 3 States

[https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/11/us/ammunition-vending-machines.html?unlocked\_article\_code=1.7E0.kSNg.v3nPt4Mh6UxE&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/11/us/ammunition-vending-machines.html?unlocked_article_code=1.7E0.kSNg.v3nPt4Mh6UxE&smid=url-share)

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/285 "2024-07-14T01:56:18Z")

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Yeah, we were already planning to vote early and be outside the U.S. on election Day, but this definitely seals the deal.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/286 "2024-07-14T02:04:24Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> It’s in the Stupid Gun News thread. I’m off to find the post.

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Here ya go.

Thanks, both. That’s… incredible. And disturbing.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/287 "2024-07-14T02:04:50Z")

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I heard the gunman was killed – hopefully the gun was unharmed.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/288 "2024-07-14T02:05:28Z")

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Possible picture of one of the bullets mid-flight:

> <https://x.com/DrPhiltill/status/1812293956102762982>
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> Haraz N. Ghanbari @HarazGhanbari

> <https://x.com/HarazGhanbari/status/1812280749745410196>

Not confirmed, but Dr. Phil Metzger is not some loon. I’d believe his analysis.

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**Author:** ![Texikid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texikid/32/17036_2.png) [@Texikid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Texikid)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/289 "2024-07-14T02:07:55Z")

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An AR15 is like 900-1200$! Dang guns are expensive.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/290 "2024-07-14T02:13:19Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Thanks, both. That’s… incredible. And disturbing.

There’s a subsequent discussion about ammo sales following that post, which will probably disturb you even more.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/291 "2024-07-14T02:14:49Z")

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> [@Texikid](#):
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> Is any news service not just repeating the same stuff over and over again?

Perhaps Trump’s injury is worse than it initially seemed and they’re trying to keep quiet until they know how things are going to turn out. The fact that he hasn’t already done a video message for his fans suggests more than just a flesh wound.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/292 "2024-07-14T02:17:18Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Perhaps Trump’s injury is worse than it initially seemed and they’re trying to keep quiet until they know how things are going to turn out. The fact that he hasn’t already done a video message for his fans suggests more than just a flesh wound.

Or maybe he’s so shook up they wouldn’t be able to get a coherent – even allowing for his limits – video that they can put out. Could be the Truth Social post was written by a flunky, too.

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**Author:** ![Texikid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texikid/32/17036_2.png) [@Texikid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Texikid)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/293 "2024-07-14T02:17:59Z")

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Maybe. The truth social post by his account is probably just from his PR folks. It describes the wounds as ok.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/294 "2024-07-14T02:19:05Z")

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> [@Dr.Strangelove](#):
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> Possible picture of one of the bullets mid-flight:  
> [x.com](https://x.com/DrPhiltill/status/1812293956102762982)  
> [x.com](https://x.com/HarazGhanbari/status/1812280749745410196)
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> Not confirmed, but Dr. Phil Metzger is not some loon. I’d believe his analysis. -

A bullet from an AR would be traveling at least 2,000 ft/sec. That seems like a very high shutter speed to be taking a normal photograph or video.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/295 "2024-07-14T02:19:20Z")

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> **[Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112782066045321247)**
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> I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the...

Yeah. Zero percent chance he wrote this.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/296 "2024-07-14T02:19:57Z")

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That guy is the luckiest motherfucker on the planet.

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**Author:** ![Texikid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texikid/32/17036_2.png) [@Texikid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Texikid)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/297 "2024-07-14T02:20:01Z")

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Yeah that’s just PR crap.

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**Author:** ![Texikid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texikid/32/17036_2.png) [@Texikid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Texikid)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/298 "2024-07-14T02:21:08Z")

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He tilted his head last second, so it skimmed his ear.Lucky as FRICK.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/299 "2024-07-14T02:22:20Z")

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When a big news story like this happens it amazes me how good the networks are at padding the hours. They find creative ways to say the same shit over and over.

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**Author:** ![Texikid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texikid/32/17036_2.png) [@Texikid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Texikid)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/300 "2024-07-14T02:22:58Z")

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The redhead dude that said he saw the shooter has been played by BBC like 50 times.

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It’ll probably be tomorrow until we get any details on the shooter. Investigators want to question all of his family and associates before his ID is made public.

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