# Trump bloody after shots fired at a Trump Rally: Jul 13, 2024

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**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [July 13, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162 "2024-07-13T22:13:44Z")\
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> [@Dr.Strangelove](#):
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> Letters on front–maybe starting with EM? Anyone recognize it?

That logo looks familiar but I can’t place it.

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> That logo looks familiar but I can’t place it

Yeah. Seems military-themed. Was thinking USMC but I’m pretty sure that’s not it. Maybe something along those lines, though.

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Backwards monochrome U.S. flag maybe? EM could be the word EMERGENCY? Purely guessing.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
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Either way, it doesn’t look like he was playing soldier. I mean, no camo, armor, tactical vest, that kind of shit. Looks like he was mowing his lawn before he decided to climb up there.

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@Loach’s post here had some details about what the logo on the shirt could be:

> [@Trump bloody after shots fired at a Trump Rally](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally/1004162/231):
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> Here’s a link to a still picture. Not graphic. I’ve seen both a higher resolution pic and the video. Nothing showing anyone shooting just this aftermath. [https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/Xhk28C6MRu](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/Xhk28C6MRu) The higher resolution pic showed that he was wearing a shirt that appeared to be from the military clothing company Grunt Style. They have distinctive flags on the right sleeve.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Backwards monochrome U.S. flag maybe?

That’s what made me think it was military-themed. Putting the star field in the forward direction is how it’s done on uniforms. Could plausibly say ARMY, depending on how the shirt bunched up. Something like:  
[![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81QMQG2CE1L._AC_SY741_.jpg) ](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81QMQG2CE1L._AC_SY741_.jpg)

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/348 "2024-07-14T04:23:50Z")

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There is scuttlebutt on Twitter that says the logo is for something called, “Demolition Ranch”.

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FWIW,

> **[America's Patriotic T-Shirt & Apparel Brand](https://www.gruntstyle.com/?tw_source=google&tw_adid=663972602294&tw_campaign=20319030605&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADovKKZmyztur53e84uXOGq14Ad1e&gclid=CjwKCAjwy8i0BhAkEiwAdFaeGPNh52mBwzJJTlotAAJG8MKbesJNuGj7JLe0hs9OHklbaWvv-H1LmBoCqtcQAvD_BwE)**
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> Our mission is to deliver the highest quality, most patriotic apparel on the planet, straight to your front door.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
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I’m still confused as to how others were shot besides the shooter. He was on the roof, by himself when he shot this rifle?

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> There is scuttlebutt on Twitter that says the logo is for something called, “Demolition Ranch”

Oh, yeah, that looks close:  
[![](https://www.bunkerbranding.com/cdn/shop/products/DemolitiaT-Shirt.jpg?v=1665071398) ](https://www.bunkerbranding.com/cdn/shop/products/DemolitiaT-Shirt.jpg?v=1665071398)

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[![](https://www.bunkerbranding.com/cdn/shop/products/Demolitia-militarygreen2stacked.jpg?v=1659650164) ](https://www.bunkerbranding.com/cdn/shop/products/Demolitia-militarygreen2stacked.jpg?v=1659650164)

By Jove, I think that’s it. I’m seeing it marketed as a “back the blue” shirt.

This guy was a MAGA. I’m sure of it.

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Bad day to be a gun YouTuber I guess. Or maybe it’s a good thing? They’re probably get millions of hits right now!

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There is also a name for the shooter I’ve seen floating around the cesspool, but I think it would be irresponsible to report here. Go to Twitter and look at pretty much any third post and you’ll trip across it.

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This incident [qualifies](https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting) as the 291st mass shooting this year. Individual-ONE is one of 1579 people who experienced unexpected lead poisoning from an unbalanced person (301 of whom did not go home after). It seems kind of disrespectful to those other people to treat this incident as anything other than another mass shooting.

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> This guy was a MAGA. I’m sure of it.

I’m not, but we’ll see. More sense is someone wanted to blend in. Makes no sense to me that a MAGA would take a potshot. Why? As a false flag? I mean, I could only hope, but that sounds totally crazy to me.

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Makes no sense to me that a MAGA would take a potshot.

For the same reason a Hindu nationalist shot Gandhi and an ultrazionist shot Rabin. The leader is no longer extreme enough for the most devoted of their followers.

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No empty Heinz ketchup packets found near the podium, right?? Hey, “just asking questions.”

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He was wearing khaki pants… and the building climbed was painted beige. The grey shirt could look like a light shadow. Still, his arms are thin… like a Jr High or HS kid.

I don’t know what to make of this… dumb kid? Trained kid? Rittenhouse was young.  
A kid that young might not have a license or prints on file. Is there a car nobody claimed that he drove up in? I know he didn’t just walk miles and miles with a rifle in his hand like Daniel Boone. Did someone drive him there?

Are there toll roads in that area of PA where a pic might have been taken of the car he came in or was driven there in? Not enough information so far…

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Maybe he’s an insane gun nut who could easily purchase an assault weapon despite whatever emotional problems he has. Doesn’t sound like a soy boy to me.

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One man’s tactical camouflage pants are another man’s camo cargo shorts that he bought at The Gap.

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