# Trump bloody after shots fired at a Trump Rally: Jul 13, 2024

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**Created:** [July 13, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162 "2024-07-13T22:13:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\
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But the video and reaction does.

You can also look at the series of photos from the photographer to get a sense of the movement.

It’s possible it’s something other than a bullet. Google NYT/Trump/Doug Mills photos to see the series of photos. They are on legit sites. it’s not a defect with the image or anything.

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You probably recall that Trump was hollering for his shoes as he was being surrounded by the SS guys. Here’s a video that shows one of the shoes being tossed offstage, and the lift/insole flies out.

> <https://x.com/WUTangKids/status/1812947055364698284>

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> **hid off topic**
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> There’s a lot I don’t understand about MAGA, but what’s the point of chanting “USA USA?” I get it at the USSR/USA hockey game in Lake Placid. In any other environment, it seems meaningless.

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Please stay on topic.

**Moderating**

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> > [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> > Do we know which shot hit trump? I can’t tell by the video, but to me it looked like the reason trump moved his head was in reaction to the sound of the first shot(s).
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> From the news reports, Trump wasn’t hit directly by a bullet, but by a glass fragment?

As far as I know that was early conjecture that was never confirmed. I haven’t seen anything official about that and I haven’t seen any broken glass. If a photo was able to see a bullet whizzing by I would think we could see glass flying.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Here’s a video that shows one of the shoes being tossed offstage, and the lift/insole flies out.

Could just as easily be orthotics.

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> > [@Railer13](#):
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> > Here’s a video that shows one of the shoes being tossed offstage, and the lift/insole flies out.
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> Could just as easily be orthotics.

I think he’s more concerned with his weird lean than with his height at this point.

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I think he’s more concerned with his weird lean than with his height at this point.

I suspect that’s the main reason, but to be fair, it would’ve been a pain in the ass to walk around with one shoe until he can get his other one back.

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> Do we know which shot hit trump? I can’t tell by the video, but to me it looked like the reason trump moved his head was in reaction to the sound of the first shot(s).

Just a reminder that bullets travel faster than sound. He could be reacting to getting hit, and we heard the sound of the shot 1 second later.

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> eric trump just said on the convention floor that his father had half his ear shot off

Sure looks like at least 95% of his ear is still present in the photos of him at the scene.

Eta: Sorry, Idk why it shows me responding to CoolHandCox.

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Because I posted a dumb picture to that post.

He’s speaking tonight at RNC. We should get a good look but I’m guessing it’ll be bandaged.

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[![](https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox6now.com/www.fox6now.com/content/uploads/2024/07/1184/666/GettyImages-2161591669.jpg?ve=1&tl=1) ](https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox6now.com/www.fox6now.com/content/uploads/2024/07/1184/666/GettyImages-2161591669.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)

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Helen Comperatore got a personal phone call from Joe Biden, which she refused to take. The Trump camp has not, to my knowledge, reached out to her.

> **[Trump hasn't called family of supporter killed at rally, wife says](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-joe-biden-corey-helen-comperatore-wife-called-rally-1925577)**
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> "I didn't talk to Biden. I didn't want to talk to him," Helen Comperatore said in an exclusive interview with the New York Post.

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LOL. What is that on his ear?! It looks like a tiny pillow. He is going to be so vain about this “disfigurement”.

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> He is going to be so vain about this “disfigurement”.

ETA: forgot this is likely a hijack…

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> It looks like a tiny pillow.

Oops, forgot where this was and just saw the post above.

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Sorry, didn’t mean to derail. I was overcome with giggles and forgot where I was.

On topic, I’d been wondering why no one saw the shooter as he walked from his car to the grounds carrying a rifle. I know that open carry was at play here but still it must have been noteworthy. And it looks like he was seen before he was on the roof.

[Alleged Trump shooter spotted by law enforcement nearly 30 minutes before shots fired, sources say – WPXI](https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/alleged-trump-shooter-spotted-by-law-enforcement-nearly-30-minutes-before-shots-fired-sources-say/Q6GIK5RP6RBY5PHIMYBNXRTEBI/)

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> According to multiple sources, a law enforcement officer had also previously seen Crooks on the ground and called him in as a suspicious person with a picture prior to 5:45 p.m. Our sources tell us an officer checked the grounds for Crooks at that point, but did not see him where the first picture was taken.

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Per Snopes, a bullet hit him, not glass.

> **[Rumor that Shards of Glass, Not Bullet, Injured Trump in Assassination...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-rumor-shards-glass-232900180.html)**
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> Did broken glass from a teleprompter cause Trump's wound, as online posts have claimed?

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Just curious. Was there an ambulance on scene already? Did they patch him up and fly him to Walter Reed? Treat him locally?

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