# Trump bloody after shots fired at a Trump Rally: Jul 13, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [July 13, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162 "2024-07-13T22:13:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/733 "2024-07-17T12:56:44Z")
Latest info on the FBI investigation of the shooter: -he had a transmitter on him that potentially could have set off the explosives in his car -he asked for the day off of work for personal reasons but said he’d be in on Sunday -nothing of note was found on his phone. Everything there was just normal stuff for a young adult > **[FBI examines Trump assassination attempt suspect's phone, transmitter found...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-examines-trump-assassination-attempt-100400741.html)** > > The attempted assassination was being investigated as a potential act of domestic terrorism, the FBI said in a statement late Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/734 "2024-07-17T13:23:32Z")
> [@Zyada](#): > > This is a link to a reddit post so that may be a problem for some people > > Video that shows just how close Trump came to dying I don’t think anyone can trust that graphic to be very accurate. It shows all the shots taking the same path. And who made it? With what data? ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/735 "2024-07-17T13:37:00Z")
I’ll bet that kind of killer is a police officer’s nightmare: random guy with no relevant social media and isn’t noticed by his family and associates until he’s doing it. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/736 "2024-07-17T13:42:35Z")
I can’t access the video, because _fuck Reddit_, but it wouldn’t be hard to reconstruct trajectories from a known muzzle placement and known impact points. This isn’t rocket science, although ballistics is an allied discipline. ---
**Author:** ![Steven\_Maven](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steven_maven/32/3272_2.png) [@Steven\_Maven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steven_Maven)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/737 "2024-07-17T14:14:54Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > They wrote that less than half an hour after the event. I apologize to the OP. They were ahead of the MSM. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/738 "2024-07-17T16:59:33Z")
> [@Eric1](#): > > I’ll bet that kind of killer is a police officer’s nightmare: random guy with no relevant social media and isn’t noticed by his family and associates until he’s doing it. The killer was nuts and ill-prepared, but he would have had to be on a whole other level of crazy and stupid to reveal his plans to family and associates and broadcast them on social media. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/739 "2024-07-17T18:28:12Z")
Regarding Trump not fundraising… Here’s a $300 pair of shoes with Trump’s bloody face [photoshopped] on them. > **[FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT High-Tops](https://gettrumpsneakers.com/products/fight-fight-fight-high-top-sneaker)** > > STRICT LIMIT OF 3 PAIRS PER CUSTOMER!Introducing the FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT High-Tops. On July 13, 2024, an assassination attempt was made on President Trump at a rally in Butler, PA. Despite the attack, Trump stood tall and resilient, leading the crowd... ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/740 "2024-07-17T19:32:02Z")
Not a problem but thank you for the apology anyways! I was indeed perplexed when I got the call and could not find any confirmation online for several minutes. That’s why I came in here to find out what was going on. All good. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/741 "2024-07-17T20:30:43Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > I’m hoping that diagrams will be available in the near future. Accounts tend to say “to Trump’s left” or “on Trump’s right” **without specifying** whether they refer to Trump and the way he was facing at any given moment, OR to the viewpoint of the reporter. > > That’s exactly what the word “Trump’s” is doing in that sentence. Now, maybe some reporters are saying “Trump’s left” when they mean “the audience’s left”, but they’re clearly saying “Trump’s left”. Reporters tend to avoid lengthy constructions. “Trump’s left” may well be short for “to the left of where Trump is standing, as viewed from the main audience area.” _And in this case, that’s exactly what was meant:_ at about the three-minute mark in the 4:39 video linked below (which dates from two days ago), the camera, located in the main audience area, pans left from the podium to the left-most of three reviewing stands, where people are calling for help for the man who was killed (Corey Comperatore). So Comperatore wasn’t seated in the stand right behind Trump. He was in the stand to the left of the central one–left from the perspective of being in the main audience area. We could argue all day and night about what reporters mean, and/or about sentence construction. But we would settle nothing. We need video such as this one, and ultimately a timeline and clear diagrams, if we’re ever to have a clear understanding of what happened at that rally. > **[CNN investigation breaks down how assassination attempt unfolded...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/15/politics/video/trump-assassination-attempt-minute-by-minute-digvid)** > > CNN synced eyewitness footage and the official video feed of Donald Trump’s rally to give a minute-by-minute account of the former President and GOP nominee’s attempted assassination in Butler, Pennsylvania. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/742 "2024-07-18T04:19:01Z")
The counter sniper shot that killed the shooter was made by the team behind the left shoulder of Trump. The team behind his right shoulder did not shoot and it’s believed a tree blocked their view. Diagram within the cite below. [CBS July 17 2024](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-rally-shooting-tree-snipers-analysis-video-satellite-imagery-cbs-news/) **Tree may have blocked sniper team’s view of Trump rally gunman, maps show** - The tree, located between the shooter and the sniper team closest to him, may have impaired the team’s line of sight as the gunman climbed onto the roof from where he fired multiple rounds. That sniper team, which was positioned on a roof over Trump’s right shoulder, did not fire the shot that killed the gunman, two federal law enforcement officials told CBS News. - A U.S. Secret Service sniper stationed in a building behind the former president fired one round, killing the gunman, according to multiple law enforcement officials. Two federal law enforcement officers told CBS News the Secret Service team that ultimately killed the shooter was located on a building behind Trump’s left shoulder — with a view that was not blocked by the tree, the CBS analysis shows. That team was initially directed to go another way, so the snipers had to reorient themselves before taking down the gunman, CBS News’ Charlie de Mar reported. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/743 "2024-07-18T04:50:00Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > he asked for the day off of work for personal reasons but said he’d be in on Sunday Wow, that was a dick move. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/744 "2024-07-18T06:51:47Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > This isn’t rocket science, No, but it was almost brain surgery! ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/745 "2024-07-18T11:10:48Z")
The head of the SS has accepted a subpoena. I don’t envy her time ahead-very rough waters. > **[U.S. Secret Service director agrees to testify to House lawmakers after Trump...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-shooting-secret-service-director-agrees-to-testify-house-oversight/)** > > The committee's Republican chairman subpoenaed U.S. Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle as Republicans ramp up efforts to investigate the assassination attempt. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/746 "2024-07-18T14:32:46Z")
Do we know who was the person in charge on site that particular day? That’s who needs to be investigated. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/747 "2024-07-18T14:43:48Z")
No doubt the committee will demand the name and then subpoena that person. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/748 "2024-07-18T15:15:56Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Do we know who was the person in charge on site that particular day? That’s who needs to be investigated. The head of Trump’s detail might not be known to the general public but it’s not a secret despite the name of the agency. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/749 "2024-07-18T15:24:10Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > The head of the SS has accepted a subpoena. I don’t envy her time ahead-very rough waters. > > [U.S. Secret Service director agrees to testify to House lawmakers after Trump assassination attempt - CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-shooting-secret-service-director-agrees-to-testify-house-oversight/) Congress should be looking into it. There should be tough questions. Unfortunately it’s the House Oversight Committee that is doing it. As Jeff Jackson pointed out in a video I posted long ago, that’s the most partisan hack bullshit committee in Congress. It will all be about scoring points against Biden. New drinking game. Drink whenever DEI is mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/750 "2024-07-18T17:59:06Z")
Thanks for that. That’s the first I’ve heard of who shot the gunman and where it came from. So the secret service sniper team covering the roof had an obstructed view. That ain’t good. I believe there were two other sniper teams, both local law enforcement, and they were ground level (one being inside the building the shooter was on top of). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/751 "2024-07-18T18:47:05Z")
> [@CoolHandCox](#): > > So the secret service sniper team covering the roof had an obstructed view. That ain’t good. I mean, it’s kind of inevitable, isn’t it? If we take it as a given that there are trees at the venue site, then from any given countersniper position, there will be some locations that are obstructed by trees. I don’t think anyone would suggest that they should cut down all trees anywhere a protected person speaks. So the proper response is to have countersnipers in multiple locations. Which is what they did. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/752 "2024-07-18T18:50:45Z")
I should have said _that_ building. The closest one to the Stage. You’d think you have someone who could cover the entire roof. But I suppose they were relying on not letting anyone get on top of it, you know, with the police guarding it and all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162.md?page=36) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162.md?page=38)