# Trump bloody after shots fired at a Trump Rally: Jul 13, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [July 13, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162 "2024-07-13T22:13:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![Old\_Wench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecccb3/32.png) [@Old\_Wench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Old_Wench)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/913 "2024-09-25T21:53:49Z")
Trump has just announced another rally at the same location in Butler, PA on October 5. > **[Trump plans rally at Butler fairgrounds, site of assassination attempt](https://triblive.com/local/regional/trump-plans-rally-butler-fairgrounds-site-of-assassination-attempt/)** > > Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump will return to the Butler Farm Show grounds for a rally Oct. 5, the same place where he was grazed by a bullet during an assassination attempt this summer, his campaign said Wednesday. Trump has been... ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/914 "2024-09-26T01:14:44Z")
So he’s FINALLY doing something that demonstrates some modicum of strategy and thought. Wonder how it’ll turn out. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/915 "2024-09-29T05:08:20Z")
> [@Old\_Wench](#): > > Trump has just announced another rally at the same location in Butler, PA on October 5. Did he pay his bills from the last time he was there? oddly, for such a professed L&O candidate, he doesnt like to pay for the police. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/916 "2024-10-15T23:34:10Z")
If he didn’t he got his money’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@salinqmind1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind1)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/917 "2025-06-30T23:00:36Z")
In a couple of weeks it will be a year since exalted leader escaped death by ear booboo…I haven’t read all the comments, but my thought is the shooter was paid to do the deed because he had an incurable dire disease. His family would quietly be paid a chunk of money (chump change to Dump, of course) and he would be quickly and painlessly put out of his misery. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/918 "2025-07-01T02:28:33Z")
Care to share a **factual** cite that supports this rather wild conspiracy theory? ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/919 "2025-07-01T02:38:58Z")
In the modern American legal system almost nothing is quick. So what IS the status of the case currently? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/920 "2025-07-01T02:41:26Z")
The attempted assassin is still dead. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/921 "2025-07-01T02:44:44Z")
Sorry, that was a senior moment… 😳 Conflated it with the Mangione case. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/922 "2025-07-01T02:55:57Z")
I’m not saying (and cannot say) that it was staged, but I find it suspicious that there is no evident damage to Trump’s ear. Cartilage doesn’t regrow like that. Maybe just the skin layer was grazed, which indicates that the maxi-pad on his ear was a stage prop. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/923 "2025-07-01T03:07:40Z")
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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/924 "2025-07-01T03:20:30Z")
**Moderating:** Thread is temporarily closed pending a detailed review. Thank you for your patience. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/925 "2025-07-01T19:07:11Z")
> [@salinqmind1](#): > > In a couple of weeks it will be a year since exalted leader escaped death by ear booboo…I haven’t read all the comments, but my thought is the shooter was paid to do the deed because he had an incurable dire disease. His family would quietly be paid a chunk of money (chump change to Dump, of course) and he would be quickly and painlessly put out of his misery. **Moderating:** While there may have been some confusion as this was a “Breaking News” style P&E thread, the above is inappropriate for either a P&E post on this subject or a Breaking News post. Considering the nature of the comments, I’d suggest it as a best fit for the Pit if @salinqmind1 wishes to continue the discussion as laid out. It’s also not a best practice to bump a 9 month old thread with an admission of not reading all the comments, especially when there were a half dozen moderator notes to avoid hijacks and speculation. Still, since there was a lot of room for confusion on this one, no warning is issued at this time. Note - there was another thread specifically opened up at the time the thread was active for the Political Discussions as well: > [@Thread for Discussion of Political Ramifications of Trump Injury from Shooting at the Butler, PA Rally](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-for-discussion-of-political-ramifications-of-trump-injury-from-shooting-at-the-butler-pa-rally/1004185): > > Rather than clutter the thread discussing the facts surrounding the shooting, let’s discuss what people feel are the political ramifications of that shooting in this thread. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/926 "2025-07-01T19:07:56Z")
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/927 "2025-07-13T20:46:54Z")
So they still don’t think they have all the information on the assassination attempt? You’d think they would have learned that spinning up conspiracy theories can be a two-edged sword. Charging the SS to be only concerned with protection is a good ideas, though. > **[Pa. congressman ‘still has questions’ a year after Trump assassination...](https://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2025/07/pa-congressman-still-has-questions-a-year-after-trump-assassination-attempt-in-butler.html)** > > The Republican congressman said he and his colleagues continue to work with Secret Service Director Sean Curran and the agency to implement nearly 40 task force recommendations to bolster security and modernize protection efforts. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/928 "2025-07-13T21:26:27Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > So they still don’t think they have all the information on the assassination attempt? Some Breaking News on this that I’ve been looking for since a year ago: the motive of the shooter. So far as I know, that’s News that’s never broken. Nor do we know which officials made which decisions that day. Seems like this should have been more-thoroughly investigated by now. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/929 "2025-07-13T23:03:36Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Some Breaking News on this that I’ve been looking for since a year ago: the motive of the shooter It became apparent decades ago that a sizable percentage of shooters in this country don’t have any kind of rational motive. Some people just want to actually use their toys for what they were designed for. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/930 "2025-07-13T23:29:54Z")
And when the shooter dies, the only way anyone can ever know their motive is if they left behind a manifesto of some sort. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/931 "2025-07-13T23:54:30Z")
And in the absence of a manifesto, the likely explanation is suicide by cop, or by Secret Service agent in this case. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2025, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/932 "2025-07-14T11:04:37Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > It became apparent decades ago that a sizable percentage of shooters in this country don’t have any kind of rational motive. Some people just want to actually use their toys for what they were designed for. To quote the (fictional) Charles Guiteau, the man who assassinated President Garfield, in the musical _Assassins_: > [@](#): > > What a wonder is a gun! > What a versatile invention! > First of all, when you’ve a gun— > Everybody pays attention! > > When you think what must be done > Think of all that it can do: > Remove a scoundrel > Unite a party > Preserve the union > Promote the sales of my book! > Ensure my future > My niche in history > And then the world will see > That I am not a man to overlook! Rational thinking is almost never a motivation behind these things, even when the intended target is objectively bad in whatever way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162.md?page=47)