# Trump bloody after shots fired at a Trump Rally: Jul 13, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [July 13, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162 "2024-07-13T22:13:44Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/141 "2024-07-13T23:30:31Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Jesus, Secret Service members talking to TMZ?! That doesn’t instill a lot of confidence in their professionalism for me. -

They let a shooter get close enough to get several shots off. That was rapid fire. You don’t rapid fire from 1000 yds.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/142 "2024-07-13T23:31:46Z")

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True enough, thanks! Somehow the idea that the source is someone who was cleared for SS info makes it feel better to me.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/143 "2024-07-13T23:31:48Z")

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The pictures being shown appear to show both teleprompters intact. Unless there was a third.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/144 "2024-07-13T23:32:30Z")

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The third teleprompter was in the grassy knoll.

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> I hate that kind of rhetoric, though drawing causal links from one to the other is basically foolish and impossible.

Correct, terms like “target”, “aiming”,”bullseye”, these are common terms in our language that can be related to firearms but aren’t always. When I hear “bullseye” my thought first goes to throwing darts, since I loved darts in my teen years.

But no, Biden was not saying “someone should shoot Trump” or anything close. This sounds like ridiculous MAGA whataboutism to try to say Biden is just like Trump in trying to provoke people to violence, which is laughably wrong.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/146 "2024-07-13T23:32:51Z")

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I see the link. Some nut heard that and took it literally.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/147 "2024-07-13T23:33:55Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Some nut heard that and took it literally.

No, that’s a ridiculous conclusion to draw. Out of all possible motivations we’re going to assume some offhand remark was the reason?

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/148 "2024-07-13T23:34:49Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> I see the link. Some nut heard that and took it literally.

That sounds like a preordained conclusion engaged in a _desperate_ search for substantiation.

ETA: Associated Press reporting that suspected shooter AND one rally attendee are dead.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/149 "2024-07-13T23:35:47Z")

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Had trump said that and someone shot at Biden you would think otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/150 "2024-07-13T23:36:02Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> Reporting shooter dead, along with a bystander, another seriously injured.

Comments from an emergency physician:

> <https://x.com/JakeMRosen/status/1812264826498081212>

“brain matter”

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/151 "2024-07-13T23:37:04Z")

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I think it’s not a good time to go there.

I personally wouldn’t go there.

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> I see the link. Some nut heard that and took it literally.

After Republicans putting out ads with literal bullseyes of their opponents and, again, literally shooting guns at their ‘’‘opponents’‘’ I’m more than a little bothered that that quote is what… some folks are now trumpeting.

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I’m hearing that one person in the crowd was killed, one seriously hurt and that the shooter is dead? I saw a vid with State Troopers pulling someone hurt/dead off of the bleachers. Yes it is all speculation right now; I wasn’t there.

I have been counseled that the GQP Boys will likely be out looking for ‘payback’ this weekend, so stay safe people. ( ie- If you are a well known supporter of President Biden, it’s probably not a safe day for you to take a walk in the park )

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Had trump said that and someone shot at Biden you would think otherwise.

I’ll just refer you to my previous comment:

> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> That sounds like a preordained conclusion engaged in a _desperate_ search for substantiation.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-bloody-after-shots-fired-at-a-trump-rally-jul-13-2024/1004162/155 "2024-07-13T23:38:26Z")

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As someone who has heard thousands of rounds fired in open air those definitely sounded like gunshots. Gunshots don’t sound as impressive as they do on tv shows especially when they are being picked up by directional mics.

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> I for one lean towards the “I’m glad he’s not dead” camp, myself.

Yeah, that was maybe too lame and too cynical an attempt at [topical humor](https://museumhack.com/teddy-roosevelt/). But I don’t see how this is anything but terrifying.

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Candidates need to be protected better. Crazy people out there.

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This.

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Foremost on anyone who runs for offices’ mind. I’m sure.

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