# Trump calls Barack Obama the "founder of ISIS." **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 11, 2016, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423 "2016-08-11T07:00:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/161 "2016-08-13T20:26:20Z")
Hell, there are _Dopers_ who have been known to claim they had been joking after the facts are rubbed in their faces. ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/162 "2016-08-13T20:35:21Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Hell, there are _Dopers_ who have been known to claim they had been joking after the facts are rubbed in their faces. Excellent point. We should ostrcize them for their lack of seriousness and integrity when they run for office. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/163 "2016-08-13T20:41:32Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > And by dog, I mean “whiny bitch!” Somewhere, Bill Maher just smiled. (It might have been about some huge sweet Colorado bud, however…) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/164 "2016-08-13T21:27:41Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > Somewhere, Bill Maher just smiled. > (It might have been about some huge sweet Colorado bud, however…) Yep, I did that in his honor! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/165 "2016-08-13T22:32:42Z")
That one was to honor Bill Maher, this next bud is for Jim Henson and Ray Harryhausen! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/166 "2016-08-13T22:37:10Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Hell, there are _Dopers_ who have been known to claim they had been joking after the facts are rubbed in their faces. Yeah, the ever-favorite and trite: “Whoosh!”. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/167 "2016-08-13T23:31:18Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Yeah, the ever-favorite and trite: “Whoosh!”. :rolleyes: Would you get over that already? How many times has it been explained to you that whooshes are NOT intentional, or attempts to get around the rules? :rolleyes: yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/168 "2016-08-14T00:13:19Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > [Trompe-l'œil - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trompe-l%27%C5%93il) Cool. I never heard that term before. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/169 "2016-08-14T00:15:45Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Would you get over that already? How many times has it been explained to you that whooshes are NOT intentional, or attempts to get around the rules? :rolleyes: yourself. Sure, I suspect some of the time they are intentional, a feeble attempt at humor by making someone take you at your written word. But the rest of the time they are simply cover ups for a stupid post. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/170 "2016-08-14T01:26:35Z")
Seriously? Nah, that’s just silly. Half the time the fact it was a deliberate whoosh is pointed out by someone _other than the original whoosher_. You’re way off the mark here. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/171 "2016-08-14T01:29:18Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > The problem isn’t Trump- it’s the Trump supporters. If his crowds had even modest intelligence and a shred of decency, Trump would spout his venom and soon see the backs of the crowd as they head for the exits. But his followers are not decent people. They are the scum of the earth, disgusting little bigots who don’t want to share the nation with people who don’t look like them, speak like them, or pray like them. Trump won the nomination by appealing to the lowest form of humanity, but a form that became energized and became a plurality of a morally bankrupt party. If his supporters would not snap up the red meat like a pack of rabid hyenas every time Trump hurls it, then perhaps he would change his tactics. But they won’t stop and neither will he. Quoted for truth. I could not agree more. I can’t imagine any more than that 27% of the electorate even considering voting for him as he continues to expose what he is. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/172 "2016-08-14T02:13:59Z")
I think \*\*BobLibDem’s \*\*comment while correct isn’t the whole story. There are also Trump supporters who are basically decent people but who have been left behind by major economic changes. They are sufficiently desperate to support anyone who purports to want to make changes, and purports to listen to what they are saying, understand how they are feeling, and have the solutions. I suspect these will be the type of people who are starting to leave Trump, as they either can’t stomach his bigotry, or are realising he has no solutions. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/173 "2016-08-14T02:24:53Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > I think \*\*BobLibDem’s \*\*comment while correct isn’t the whole story. There are also Trump supporters who are basically decent people but who have been left behind by major economic changes. They are sufficiently desperate to support anyone who purports to want to make changes, and purports to listen to what they are saying, understand how they are feeling, and have the solutions. > > I suspect these will be the type of people who are starting to leave Trump, as they either can’t stomach his bigotry, or are realising he has no solutions. I agree, I don’t think those are part of the 27% that will vote for him no matter what. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/174 "2016-08-14T03:14:37Z")
> [@MacCat](#): > > I agree, I don’t think those are part of the 27% that will vote for him no matter what. I still think Hillary will win, but I’m afraid the current crazification factor is reaching just under 40%. I expect really ugly things on election day, with all those people goaded by Trump into looking for fraud, by harassing minorities when they get close to the ballot box. Thank goodness I’m voting early. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/175 "2016-08-14T04:02:57Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Seriously? Nah, that’s just silly. Half the time the fact it was a deliberate whoosh is pointed out by someone _other than the original whoosher_. You’re way off the mark here. And who knows if they are right? Dog whistles, dude, dog whistles. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/176 "2016-08-14T04:40:02Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I still think Hillary will win, but I’m afraid the current crazification factor is reaching just under 40%. I can’t see undecideds swinging his way as his ludicrous act is abandoned by a growing stream of GOPers, and the press finally beginning to get serious with him and his spokespeople. When the sharks smell blood in the water, there will likely be a feeding frenzy and I think a lot of his non-hardcore support will fall away as he’s seen as the LOSER he really is. > [@GIGObuster](#): > > I expect really ugly things on election day, with all those people goaded by Trump into looking for fraud, by harassing minorities when they get close to the ballot box. Thank goodness I’m voting early. I don’t doubt election day ugliness by his supporters, but I also don’t anticipate him having the support the GOPers had in 2000 for their criminal tampering. Trump is about the only nominee that can make W look presidential by comparison. I may be wrong, but I expect it not to be close, and heavy damage to the Republican Party. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/177 "2016-08-14T14:12:36Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Trump does not want to be president, and doesn’t plan on actually doing much if he wins. That’s why he was offering the “most powerful vicepresidency in history”. He DOES want to win though, because in his mind winning is everything. He doesn’t want the job, but he sure as hell isn’t going to try to purposely lose. This was my thinking when I started the thread, _[If Elected, Will Trump Serve?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=800748)_ He wants to WIN; he just doesn’t want the JOB. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423/178 "2016-08-19T16:36:47Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > And who knows if they are right? > > Dog whistles, dude, dog whistles. Whooosh. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-barack-obama-the-founder-of-isis/762423.md?page=8)