# Trump calls for delaying the election

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [July 30, 2020, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829 "2020-07-30T13:14:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/121 "2020-07-31T16:41:55Z")

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> Pompeo: We all should want–I know you do, too, Senator Kaine–want to make sure to have an election that everyone is confident in.

Kinda [like this](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/802972944532209664?s=19)?

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### Author: ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/122 "2020-07-31T16:56:30Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I would not be at all surprised to see Republicans begin to jump on board the “The election’s rigged” train the closer we get to election day

I’ll be surprised. Establishment Republicans know the vote will count. If they push the rigged narrative then more Republican voters will stay home, leading to an even bigger landslide.

McConnell is in a tighter race than expected. If Republicans skip the vote he could actually lose.

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### Author: ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/123 "2020-07-31T16:59:17Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> It’s the top three vote getters.

Top two for VP:

“The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, **then from the two highest** numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President”

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### Author: ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/124 "2020-07-31T17:04:13Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> That famous 47% remark.  
> Let’s not forget the spectacle of Romney groveling before Trump for the SecOfSte job.

Let’s not forget the spectacle of [Romney’s dog in a carrier strapped to the roof of his car](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney_dog_incident)… FOR TWELVE HOURS.

> In June 1983, the Romney family left their [Belmont, Massachusetts](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belmont,_Massachusetts) home on their way to Romney’s parents’ cottage in [Beach O’Pines](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beach_O%27Pines), [Ontario](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario) for an annual vacation along the shore of [Lake Huron](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Huron). Seamus rode in a carrier on the roof of the family’s [Chevrolet Caprice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Caprice) [station wagon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Station_wagon) for the 12-hour trip. Romney had built a windshield for the carrier to make the ride more comfortable for the dog. During the 650-mile (1,050 km) trip, Seamus got [diarrhea](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diarrhea). Romney stopped at a [gas station](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_station) to wash the dog, the carrier and the car. With Seamus back in the carrier, the family continued on their way.

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### Author: ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/125 "2020-07-31T17:08:55Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> I want to thank the Dope. I watch Fox often, and it gives you ideas of how people are trying to destroy America with their anarchy etc.and Trump is the only one who loves our country… so it helps when I come here and get another viewpoint. Thanks

Anarchists like the dude in Minneapolis who started the rioting? Turns out he was an associate of the Aryan Cowboy Brotherhood, a White supremacist prison and street gang based mainly in Minnesota and Kentucky.

> **[Minneapolis 'Umbrella Man' who sparked AutoZone fire is Hells Angels member:...](https://www.foxnews.com/us/minneapolis-umbrella-man-autozone-fire-hells-angels-police)**
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> Nicknamed “Umbrella Man” for his all-black getup that included hood, gas mask and black umbrella, police say the man’s actions led to an arson fire.

Or the white supremacist groups who are trying to start unrest by encouraging people to shoot randomly into crowds who are peacefully protesting?

> **[A white supremacist channel on Telegram encouraged followers to incite...](https://www.businessinsider.com/white-supremacist-telegram-channel-encourages-violence-george-floyd-protests-2020-6)**
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> Multiple media outlets have reported on white supremacist groups weaponizing protests against police brutality to start violence.

Yes, I agree that these people are trying to destroy America.

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### Author: ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/126 "2020-07-31T17:22:28Z")

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They won’t say “It’s rigged” while people are voting; they’ll say something like “Voter fraud is a concern - the president is right to be concerned about this.”

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/127 "2020-07-31T18:10:46Z")

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“The fact that we have a Sec of State - an office once held by Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration - ought to tell you **everything.** ”

I am not sure what this is supposed to mean?

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/128 "2020-07-31T18:13:07Z")

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Maybe. They havent caught him, and that whole thing is based upon a anonymous tipster.

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### Author: ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/129 "2020-07-31T18:17:35Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> I want to thank the Dope. I watch Fox often, and it gives you ideas of how people are trying to destroy America with their anarchy etc.and Trump is the only one who loves our country… so it helps when I come here and get another viewpoint. Thanks.

I don’t know if this is supposed to be sarcastic or what. But taken at face value, it’s like saying that I stab myself in the eye with a sharp object for 30 minutes every day, because it just feels so wonderful when I stop.

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### Author: ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/130 "2020-07-31T18:45:34Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> _[Re Obama’s eulogy on Lewis]_
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> …I dare anyone to say it was not appropriate to bring up the election at this event…

Ha! Stephen Miller took my dare!  
[https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/510006-stephen-miller-criticizes-obama-for-shockingly-political-remarks-at](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/510006-stephen-miller-criticizes-obama-for-shockingly-political-remarks-at)

👍🏼

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### Author: ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2020, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/131 "2020-07-31T18:48:35Z")

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Food for thought. Or thoughts for food.

> **[Where the System May Break](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/how-2020-election-could-go-wrong/614842/)**
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> A war-game exercise simulating the 2020 election unmasked some key vulnerabilities.

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#### Post date: [July 31, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/132 "2020-07-31T19:21:39Z")

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> [@Deeg](#):
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> I’ll be surprised. Establishment Republicans know the vote will count. If they push the rigged narrative then more Republican voters will stay home, leading to an even bigger landslide

We can only hope this is an unintended side effect.

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#### Post date: [July 31, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/133 "2020-07-31T19:27:55Z")

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Republicans other than Trump know that there is no difference between mail-in voting and absentee voting (Trump has to pretend the latter is all right, because he does it) and that voting by mail benefits both parties equally. They can’t indulge this latest nonsense too much without endangering their own GOTV operation and further imperiling their majority.

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#### Post date: [July 31, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/134 "2020-07-31T20:14:09Z")

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Hell, I would say it is extremely appropriate since expanded voting rights (especially for minorities) was one of Rep. Lewis’s biggest causes. I’m pretty sure Obama knew Rep. Lewis would want to champion his causes at a time like these, even at his funeral.

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### Author: ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/135 "2020-07-31T20:15:16Z")

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Sorry, not clear – the original got swallowed up in a timeout and I rewrote this version in haste.

I meant that the Sec of State is telling a US Senator that the AG will decide whether or not the election goes as scheduled ought to tell you everything. It’s the executive branch asserting power and showing contempt for a democratically elected legislature. This is not just trolling; the executive branch is telling you what it’s thinking about doing, and this thought should be taken very seriously.

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### Author: ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/136 "2020-07-31T20:20:58Z")

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Also, the military typically vote absentee, not mail-in (the devil’s method). (Yes, I know they’re the same)

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/137 "2020-08-01T00:15:09Z")

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CA has had it for decades, thru several GOP Governors, including Ronald Reagan, a true Republican, who was in favor of it.

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#### Post date: [August 1, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/138 "2020-08-01T01:24:37Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> I watch Fox often, and it gives you ideas of how people are trying to destroy America with their anarchy etc.and Trump is the only one who loves our country… so it helps when I come here and get another viewpoint.

Please stop hurting yourself.

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Ha! Stephen Miller took my dare!

Would we expect otherwise?

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#### Post date: [August 1, 2020, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/139 "2020-08-01T02:23:31Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> the military typically vote absentee, not mail-in (the devil’s method). (Yes, I know they’re the same)

And overseas voters too… but it gets worse!

While living overseas through several election cycles I was able to vote by email! The horror!

The elections office would email me a ballot. I would mark my selections using MS Paint and print the result to PDF which I emailed back. No paper at all.

When I happened to be stateside for one election (hurricane evacuation) and voted in person the elections officer knew me as that guy from Cayman and was surprised to meet me in person.

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### Author: ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2020, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-delaying-the-election/916829/140 "2020-08-01T08:48:04Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> But wait, there’s more. Call now, and we’ll give you post office closures and service cuts just as mail-in ballots are becoming a thing at no extra charge.
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> Call now. Operators are standing by.
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> [Postal Service may close offices, cut service ahead of election - MarketWatch](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/postal-service-may-close-offices-cut-service-ahead-of-election-2020-07-29)
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> …as many of us have predicted.

Yep, kill the postal service so everyone is forced to use private delivery services which, by the way, aren’t obligated to serve everyone. Sucks to be you if you’re in a non-profitable area. This won’t sink in until after the election so Trumpists won’t realize how screwed they are until it’s too late.

> [@Monty](#):
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> Re post office closures: That not affects mail service. Post Offices have long been one of the places where you can go to get a passport. I am really looking forward to the end of this year.

Oh, yeah, I hadn’t thought about that… and a passport will soon be the only alternative to RealID for getting a “valid ID” that allows travel, and the only way to leave the country. Don’t want the peasants moving about freely!

> [@Jas09](#):
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> More likely Trump is just trolling and sowing doubt so he can claim he didn’t really lose (if he does).

I think that’s at the heat of it. Hell, Trump cried foul about the _last_ election and he _won_ that one!

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