# Trump CDC takes over housing

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 4, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cdc-takes-over-housing/919824 "2020-09-04T16:39:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Earl\_McCabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@Earl\_McCabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_McCabe)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cdc-takes-over-housing/919824/21 "2020-09-06T13:00:08Z")

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Those that need low cost housing will be hurt the most in the mid-long term. This will have a detrimental effect on the housing stock and concentrate ownership in fewer corporate real estate outfits. Prices will rise.

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**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cdc-takes-over-housing/919824/22 "2020-09-06T13:48:59Z")

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> [@Earl\_McCabe](#):
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> “ Given the promise of living rent-free, some tenants, even if they could afford the rent, might take advantage and walk away when the year was out.”

So obviously there could always be unintended consequences, but the order is designed to not be a “rent free” option for everyone. What the order says is that if you are unable to make rent, you have to affirm to your landlord that you are unable to pay due to lost income or medical expenses, you’ve made a best effort to find a way to pay and if evicted you would likely be homeless. Then your landlord can challenge your claims in court.

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**Author:** ![Earl\_McCabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@Earl\_McCabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_McCabe)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cdc-takes-over-housing/919824/23 "2020-09-06T14:32:17Z")

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Yeah, which is why this will drive small landlords out so that the majors can scoop up their properties on foreclosure. There’s no way a small landlord will be have the means to meet that burden of proof.

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**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cdc-takes-over-housing/919824/24 "2020-09-06T14:44:12Z")

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I think the details are still somewhat murky (which is absolutely a criticism I have with the way Trump did this), but [it seems like](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/02/your-money/eviction-moratorium-covid.html) tenants would have to provide evidence that they have no way to make rent, rather than the other way around. I don’t think burden of proof would apply here as it would in a criminal trial.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cdc-takes-over-housing/919824/25 "2020-09-06T14:48:20Z")

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Yeah, unless there is some sort of protection for landlords as well, this could end up as just another massive consolidation of wealth to the wealthy.

You know who does have money right now? The wealthy, and they don’t really have that many places to park it. So, when a landlord goes months without receiving any rent, and so is not able to make his mortgage payments, that real estate will be snatched up by investors and speculators.

I know people that own a single apartment building, or a duplex that they rent out the other side, or even a couple houses that they rent that are struggling right now.

Big commercial apartment complexes will probably be fine, it is all the little guys that will be hurt.

It does help with the short term issues of evictions and homelessness, but it is going to cause long term damage to the real estate market.

When the moratoriums end, which if Trump wins he will have no reason to extend them, renters will be faced with having to pay up months of back rent or be evicted by new landlords who may not have the same relationship that they had with the old.

If Democrats win, it’s going to be a mess trying to fix everything, if it can be at all. The properties will already be owned by larger investors who are motivated to get rid of the current tenants and raise rents.

The best way to keep people in their homes is to ensure that they have the money to stay in their homes. Anything else is a stopgap that kicks the can down the road and makes the problem worse.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cdc-takes-over-housing/919824/26 "2020-09-06T16:42:47Z")

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Thank you for the cites. I’ve been seeing many articles calling urgently for landlords and tenants to work together but nothing about whether they’ve actually been doing so.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cdc-takes-over-housing/919824/27 "2020-09-07T01:22:37Z")

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A brain surgeon is in charge of HUD and now the CDC is in charge of housing . . . yup, just another typical day in Trump’s America.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cdc-takes-over-housing/919824/28 "2020-09-07T15:29:42Z")

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Very, very good points.

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**Author:** ![LauderdaleFort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/977dab/32.png) [@LauderdaleFort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LauderdaleFort)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cdc-takes-over-housing/919824/29 "2021-08-04T20:01:33Z")

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And in Biden’s America, the theft continues.

> **[Last-minute eviction ban extension fuels confusion and is too late for some](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/08/04/evictions-moratorium-extended/)**
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> When the nationwide moratorium lapsed Saturday, some states and cities had allowed courts to process legal filings on behalf of landlords wanting to evict nonpaying tenants. The July 31 lapse in the nationwide moratorium jump-started that eviction...

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