# Trump claims Canadians want to be the 51 US state. Canadian dopers any thoughts? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 8, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730 "2025-01-08T17:47:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/241 "2025-01-25T03:37:35Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > Outside of whatever infinite range of “Trump has serious issues” responses, for real, objectively, logically etc, what in God’s name is his problem with us (Canada, that is)? It’s not you. He wants to stir up nationalism and making a border dispute works. He’s also threatening Mexico. Cause for hope: There is a history of the U.S. backing down, as we did in 1846, when, despite the slogan [54-40 or fight](https://library.fiveable.me/key-terms/hs-washington-state-history/54-40-or-fight-slogan) bring current, the U.S. settled for the 49th parallel as the border. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/242 "2025-01-25T03:59:16Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > when, despite the slogan > [54-40 or fight](https://library.fiveable.me/key-terms/hs-washington-state-history/54-40-or-fight-slogan) bring current And some rock trivia. We have a band “54-40”, named after that slogan. [https://youtu.be/GG3zXWEts-I?si=qddZIFz9GdlTKsxi](https://youtu.be/GG3zXWEts-I?si=qddZIFz9GdlTKsxi) ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/243 "2025-01-25T04:53:40Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > Though I acknowledge that our waiting times can be problematic sometimes, there’s no way in hell that I (and I suspect most Canadians) would accept US health care Yep, wait times are definitely a problem, but if you show up with a broken arm, you’ll be seen pretty quickly, and you won’t end up bankrupt afterwards. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/244 "2025-01-25T11:50:29Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > I do have to confess that I wasn’t aware of that nonwhite percentage in Canada, although it should have occurred to me given the First Nations and other indigenous populations. First Nations is only 5%. We have significant East Asian, South Asian, and Caribbean origin populations. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/245 "2025-01-25T11:55:47Z")
From my Canadian relatives I’ve heard constant bleating about how the country is being overrun by East and South Asians. Ironically my relatives are all non-white immigrants themselves. But they came here 30-50 years ago when the country needed them. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/246 "2025-01-27T17:45:50Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Cause for hope: There is a history of the U.S. backing down, as we did in 1846 In 1846 the US didn’t have much of a standing army and wars moved slower. Invading Canada was a declaration of war on the United Kingdom and could have been a disaster. People were still around who could remember the War of 1812, which was an unpopular war that dragged out for years. In 2025 the US would topple the Canadian government in a week. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730.md?page=12)